Basil
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Ok so I have ran clen before and have noticed a few mistakes that my friends have done while on it.
this is just a simple do's and dont's from my personal experiences.
1. When starting a cycle, start on a low dose of 20mg. I know you want to loose fat fast but starting at higher doses means side effects kick in faster and I found they stay around for longer and are more severe. plus you will look like a recovering drug addict from the shakes if you go balls deep first time around. Also the sides such as headaches can get really bad and will make you stop if you start your dose off too high. I HAD NO SIDE EFFECTS following the information below with excellent gains.
2. there is much controversy regarding clen cycles e.g. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, going 6-8 weeks strait or 2 days on and 2 days off. This does not matter much, just whatever works best for you and your body. I personally like the 2 weeks on and off routine as my body works best with it. I will give an example of the cycle at the end of this that I used and my results.
3. Do not exceed 140mg for males or 120mg for woman ED (unless you have a lot of experience and are comfortable with how your body reacts to clen). This is because clen can have very bad long term side effects and there is honestly no point in my opinion. Rather live to do it again another day
4. Don't run clen all year around. That is just being stupid. Respect the drug. And remember the golden rule, spend as much time off as you do on. so if you run a 10 week cycle (2 weeks on 2 weeks off so total 6 weeks on) then I would wait a minimum of 8 weeks to give my receptors and body enough time to fully recover and desensitise from clen.
5. Don't think because you are running clen you can eat whatever. CLEN WILL NOT WORK IF YOUR EATING IS SHIT. If your diet is clean and lean and gym is on point then you will be able to see the fat loss on a daily basis.
6. Clen and rebound... Clen does not have a rebound. The secret with "clen rebound" is that people go on a strict diet while on clen then as soon as they are off they return to their old life style of eating crap and not exercising. That is what causes the "rebound". This is why clen is not for pussies who cant control their diet and lack experience in the dieting department.
7. Clen and muscle loss. From doing ONLY clen I experienced little muscle and strength loss. to give you an idea (and keep in mind this is while cals are at 1800 feeling like im starving haha) I went from doing a 10 rep set of 25kg dumbell curls each arm to 7 reps at 24kg. So there is a difference but not much. As soon as im off the cut then strength returns and size. (maybe from increase in carb intake?)
8. Clen and asthma. Put simply you will not get asthma on clen unless you smoke. Only smoking can annoy your lungs that much even while on clen if you have asthma. I know this because I have asthma and use to smoke (quit a fair while ago and loving life)
9. Clen and weed. Now i know you thinking "what who would do that lol?" but people do do it especially for the long jogs. I have tried it (not for the jog, just fun) and wont do it again. It is not fun. It feels like your heart is going to jump out your chest. Not only that but the amount of strain you are putting on your heart is NOT worth the risk. You may fuck your self up for life. I don't recommend this, however it did aid in fat loss but not enough to make it worth it. I don't know how exactly, maybe how it affect sugar in your body? but never the less, just don't.
10. drinking while on clen. Put simply NO. this is because it increases your heart rate and it dehydrates you (clen already does that) and not to mention you are trying to loose fat. That's the point of being on clen.
11. Dosages. Now here is where it gets tricky as it is body dependant in many cases. For me, following these dosages my first time around I HAD NO SIDE EFFECTS other than a slight heart rate increase shortly after dosage and lost a shit ton of fat. weight wise I went down 16kg (35.274 lbs). Dosages that are 80mg or bigger you want to split throughout the day. On 80mg I did my first dose (as all others lower dose before) by taking 40mg in the morning around 8am and the other 40mg after lunch around 12-2pm. The second dose can also be taken a hour before a workout for a better pump but I wouldn't do it past 5pm as then I found that I got night sweats and was harder to fall asleep.
Cal intake ED (each day): 1800-2000 (carbs included)
Doses > 80mg split into 2 dosages (half 8am, other half 12-2pm)
Interval training 2-3 times a week for 20 min. but I did slack heavy on this.
weights 6 days a week - mon - sat with sunday as rest day and cheat meal. (a meal not a cheat day)
so there are 3 cycles in the whole cycle so to speak. total of 6 weeks on, split into 3 two week cycles.
cycle 1:
20mg - day 1
20mg
40mg
40mg
60mg
60mg
80mg
80mg
80mg
60mg
40mg
20mg - end of first cycle (2 weeks)
---------------------------------
2 weeks off
--------------------------------
20mg - day 1
20mg
40mg
40mg
60mg
80mg
100mg
100mg
80mg
60mg
40mg
20mg end of second cycle (2 weeks)
---------------------------------
2 weeks off
--------------------------------
20mg -day 1
40mg
60mg
80mg
100mg
120mg
120mg
120mg
100mg
80mg
60mg
40mg
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finished
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The uploaded pics of my results were from my first cycle I ever did of clen following the above information. Sorry if the first pic is not a good angle, didnt have much pictures of me at the time.
this is just a simple do's and dont's from my personal experiences.
1. When starting a cycle, start on a low dose of 20mg. I know you want to loose fat fast but starting at higher doses means side effects kick in faster and I found they stay around for longer and are more severe. plus you will look like a recovering drug addict from the shakes if you go balls deep first time around. Also the sides such as headaches can get really bad and will make you stop if you start your dose off too high. I HAD NO SIDE EFFECTS following the information below with excellent gains.
2. there is much controversy regarding clen cycles e.g. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, going 6-8 weeks strait or 2 days on and 2 days off. This does not matter much, just whatever works best for you and your body. I personally like the 2 weeks on and off routine as my body works best with it. I will give an example of the cycle at the end of this that I used and my results.
3. Do not exceed 140mg for males or 120mg for woman ED (unless you have a lot of experience and are comfortable with how your body reacts to clen). This is because clen can have very bad long term side effects and there is honestly no point in my opinion. Rather live to do it again another day
4. Don't run clen all year around. That is just being stupid. Respect the drug. And remember the golden rule, spend as much time off as you do on. so if you run a 10 week cycle (2 weeks on 2 weeks off so total 6 weeks on) then I would wait a minimum of 8 weeks to give my receptors and body enough time to fully recover and desensitise from clen.
5. Don't think because you are running clen you can eat whatever. CLEN WILL NOT WORK IF YOUR EATING IS SHIT. If your diet is clean and lean and gym is on point then you will be able to see the fat loss on a daily basis.
6. Clen and rebound... Clen does not have a rebound. The secret with "clen rebound" is that people go on a strict diet while on clen then as soon as they are off they return to their old life style of eating crap and not exercising. That is what causes the "rebound". This is why clen is not for pussies who cant control their diet and lack experience in the dieting department.
7. Clen and muscle loss. From doing ONLY clen I experienced little muscle and strength loss. to give you an idea (and keep in mind this is while cals are at 1800 feeling like im starving haha) I went from doing a 10 rep set of 25kg dumbell curls each arm to 7 reps at 24kg. So there is a difference but not much. As soon as im off the cut then strength returns and size. (maybe from increase in carb intake?)
8. Clen and asthma. Put simply you will not get asthma on clen unless you smoke. Only smoking can annoy your lungs that much even while on clen if you have asthma. I know this because I have asthma and use to smoke (quit a fair while ago and loving life)
9. Clen and weed. Now i know you thinking "what who would do that lol?" but people do do it especially for the long jogs. I have tried it (not for the jog, just fun) and wont do it again. It is not fun. It feels like your heart is going to jump out your chest. Not only that but the amount of strain you are putting on your heart is NOT worth the risk. You may fuck your self up for life. I don't recommend this, however it did aid in fat loss but not enough to make it worth it. I don't know how exactly, maybe how it affect sugar in your body? but never the less, just don't.
10. drinking while on clen. Put simply NO. this is because it increases your heart rate and it dehydrates you (clen already does that) and not to mention you are trying to loose fat. That's the point of being on clen.
11. Dosages. Now here is where it gets tricky as it is body dependant in many cases. For me, following these dosages my first time around I HAD NO SIDE EFFECTS other than a slight heart rate increase shortly after dosage and lost a shit ton of fat. weight wise I went down 16kg (35.274 lbs). Dosages that are 80mg or bigger you want to split throughout the day. On 80mg I did my first dose (as all others lower dose before) by taking 40mg in the morning around 8am and the other 40mg after lunch around 12-2pm. The second dose can also be taken a hour before a workout for a better pump but I wouldn't do it past 5pm as then I found that I got night sweats and was harder to fall asleep.
Cal intake ED (each day): 1800-2000 (carbs included)
Doses > 80mg split into 2 dosages (half 8am, other half 12-2pm)
Interval training 2-3 times a week for 20 min. but I did slack heavy on this.
weights 6 days a week - mon - sat with sunday as rest day and cheat meal. (a meal not a cheat day)
so there are 3 cycles in the whole cycle so to speak. total of 6 weeks on, split into 3 two week cycles.
cycle 1:
20mg - day 1
20mg
40mg
40mg
60mg
60mg
80mg
80mg
80mg
60mg
40mg
20mg - end of first cycle (2 weeks)
---------------------------------
2 weeks off
--------------------------------
20mg - day 1
20mg
40mg
40mg
60mg
80mg
100mg
100mg
80mg
60mg
40mg
20mg end of second cycle (2 weeks)
---------------------------------
2 weeks off
--------------------------------
20mg -day 1
40mg
60mg
80mg
100mg
120mg
120mg
120mg
100mg
80mg
60mg
40mg
---------------------
finished
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The uploaded pics of my results were from my first cycle I ever did of clen following the above information. Sorry if the first pic is not a good angle, didnt have much pictures of me at the time.
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