Clomd or tamoxifen for this cycle

Johnylee

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I'm going to be doing 10 weeks of 250mg PW of Test Cypionate and 10mg per day of Superdrol, what would be best to use along side clomid or tamoxifen and after the Superdrol I will blast the Test to 500mg for weeks so what would be best during that part?
 
Only use testosterone. If you have to use superdrol only use as a pre workout for 4 weeks. If you have to use every day only use for 2 weeks. Most people don’t want to train while on superdrol daily unless it’s injectable.

If you aren’t going to cruse between blasts take Tamoxifen as PCT. No need to take it daily on cycle.

Have you even had bloods done to see how your body is ?
 
Only use testosterone. If you have to use superdrol only use as a pre workout for 4 weeks. If you have to use every day only use for 2 weeks. Most people don’t want to train while on superdrol daily unless it’s injectable.

If you aren’t going to cruse between blasts take Tamoxifen as PCT. No need to take it daily on cycle.

Have you even had bloods done to see how your body is ?
Thanks, what's the reason they don't want to train on it daily? I'v not used it for a few years I remember it made me lethargic is that the reason? I'd like to know where to source injectable i'd prefer to do that
 
Thanks, what's the reason they don't want to train on it daily? I'v not used it for a few years I remember it made me lethargic is that the reason? I'd like to know where to source injectable i'd prefer to do that
Make people really lethargic.
Don’t know where to get injectable from. I would just use more testosterone and add Tadalafil for training pump
 
Make people really lethargic.
Don’t know where to get injectable from. I would just use more testosterone and add Tadalafil for training pump
Yea now you mention it I was very lethargic using it, it's been a while since i'v used anything but glad you mentioned it. Does the injectable form not cause lethargy then?

regarding clomid / tamoxifen, I have pre existing gyno and it gets worse on cycle
 
You should consider a longer term tamoxifen 'cycle' while not in cycle to get rid of the gyno...
And it probably gets worse because your estrogen is not in good range. Bloodwork and aromasin would be better. Use your search bar brother.
And 250/wk test isn't worth a cycle. That won't bring you much higher than normal range. The natty test shutdown isn't worth it
 
You should consider a longer term tamoxifen 'cycle' while not in cycle to get rid of the gyno...
And it probably gets worse because your estrogen is not in good range. Bloodwork and aromasin would be better. Use your search bar brother.
And 250/wk test isn't worth a cycle. That won't bring you much higher than normal range. The natty test shutdown isn't worth it
Thank you for your reply, to be honest the main reason I am using test is to try raise my hemoglobin as I need regular blood transfusions that I can't always get. I plan to do 10 weeks at 250mg then blast at 500mg
 
Seems like there's better ways to raise hemoglobin... if your going to take test, might as well take enough to make it worth it for a cycle. 250mg is not it
 
I'm going to be doing 10 weeks of 250mg PW of Test Cypionate and 10mg per day of Superdrol, what would be best to use along side clomid or tamoxifen and after the Superdrol I will blast the Test to 500mg for weeks so what would be best during that part?
OP I would strongly recommend that you disregard what everyone has said in reference to your dosage.

My first cycle was 300mgs and I accrued 20+ lbs LBM in 16 weeks.

(I would assume)Most of the members who made remarks about your dosage have numerous cycles under their belt- so the efficacy of a test cycle at that dose is laughable to them. So while they're intentions are pure- you are being duped.

You can get away with 1.2 CC's/week (If this in fact your first cycle & you plan on increasing your calories by 30-50%)

You don't need half a gram of test to grow.

I won't speak to the Clomid/Tamox bit because I know very little about SERMS.

IMO the length of your cycle is the the real pointless variable about it- not your dose. 10 weeks is shit.

I would run 300 MGs x 8 weeks. Kickstart w Sdrol.
Bump up to 450 MGs for weeks 9-16 and eat more.



***Edit: Misread the OP. I thought we were talking about a 1st cycle here.

Upon further inspection of your post history, 13 months ago you ran a cycle of "Test 200mg, EQ 250, Dbol was 25 per day(+ LGD)"...And your results were so shit that you even made a thread called "Not gaining on cycle"?

So what even is the fucking point of this cycle?***
 
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Seems like there's better ways to raise hemoglobin... if your going to take test, might as well take enough to make it worth it for a cycle. 250mg is not it
Thanks yes I doubt it is but I don't really want to use too much but if you think my issue is too low to raise hemaglobin then maybe I will rethink
 
OP I would strongly recommend that you disregard what everyone has said in reference to your dosage.

My first cycle was 300mgs and I accrued 20+ lbs LBM in 16 weeks.

(I would assume)Most of the members who made remarks about your dosage have numerous cycles under their belt- so the efficacy of a test cycle at that dose is laughable to them. So while they're intentions are pure- you are being duped.

You can get away with 1.2 CC's/week (If this in fact your first cycle & you plan on increasing your calories by 30-50%)

You don't need half a gram of test to grow.

I won't speak to the Clomid/Tamox bit because I know very little about SERMS.

IMO the length of your cycle is the the real pointless variable about it- not your dose. 10 weeks is shit.

I would run 300 MGs x 8 weeks. Kickstart w Sdrol.
Bump up to 450 MGs for weeks 9-16 and eat more.



***Edit: Misread the OP. I thought we were talking about a 1st cycle here.

Upon further inspection of your post history, 13 months ago you ran a cycle of "Test 200mg, EQ 250, Dbol was 25 per day(+ LGD)"...And your results were so shit that you even made a thread called "Not gaining on cycle"?

So what even is the fucking point of this cycle?***
Thanks for reminding me of my last post and yes it seems what is the fucking point, back then I had been in hospital long term and was trying to gain weight and also raise my hemoglobin that's why I made the post because I gained fuck all and realised my digestive issues is why

This time while i'd like to gain weight I am more interested in raising hemoglobin still, i'd rather have constructive criticism that abuse but I value your advice, it has been suggested to try masteron and test together kick starting with 10mg superdrol for 4 maybe 6 weeks. As for length of cycle it will be 10 weeks before blasting test on it's own around 500mg

I admit I am no pro body builder and and I am mainly concerned to raise my hemoglobin, I would love to get hold of epo for that but can't source it
 
You're still a fucking idiot fuck off back in your cupboard, i'm not bothered about gaining massive amounts of muscle i'm trying to raise hemoglobin for health issues now shut the fuck up and don't reply again
Thanks yes I doubt it is but I don't really want to use too much but if you think my issue is too low to raise hemaglobin then maybe I will rethink

?You're using AAS to increase your Hgb?

I guess I missed that part.

Why not just change your diet + supplementation?

↑ Foods that are rich in heme-iron(Beef, lamb, bison) + foods that are high in Vit C to increase iron absorption (Oranges, broccoli, bell peppers, etc.)

Also, ↓ Foods that inhibit iron absorption to a degree(Coffee, eggwhites, grains, legumes, seeds, etc.)...

Maybe start there? If you haven't already.


You mentioned digestive issues- low Hgb could indicate stomach or bowel ulcer...have you looked into that?
 
?You're using AAS to increase your Hgb?

I guess I missed that part.

Why not just change your diet + supplementation?

↑ Foods that are rich in heme-iron(Beef, lamb, bison) + foods that are high in Vit C to increase iron absorption (Oranges, broccoli, bell peppers, etc.)

Also, ↓ Foods that inhibit iron absorption to a degree(Coffee, eggwhites, grains, legumes, seeds, etc.)...

Maybe start there? If you haven't already.


You mentioned digestive issues- low Hgb could indicate stomach or bowel ulcer...have you looked into that?
Unfortunately diet doesn't help I have tried everything and yes I have some serious gut issues, I need monthly blood transfusions but can't always get them in the uk so am left very weak and breathless hence needing steroids
 
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