Cloudy/Lumpy HGH

[StoopidGoat]

As part of a larger order, I purchased a HGH kit from a known supplier. Following recon with bac water, the HGH was cloudy and contained floting particulate, even after 24+ hours, some of which looked like tiny strings. I prepared additional vials with greater care and allowing temperatures to reach equilibrium, this made no difference.

After some searching, I found about a dozen individuals with this same issue from the source. When asked, the source blamed people and stated that HGH should only be reconned with sterile water and not bac water, and the fact that bac water was used is the issue.

I am hesitant to mention source name, as I am unable to post in the underground section (I made this account to get some advice on the above query).

What could be the cause of this particulate? I have attached an image of an offending vial. There are a lot more images from different people who have ordered also. Any ideas on the safety profile of such vials? None of have been used and none are planning on it.

 

[Ateam2023]

As part of a larger order, I purchased a HGH kit from a known supplier. Following recon with bac water, the HGH was cloudy and contained floting particulate, even after 24+ hours, some of which looked like tiny strings. I prepared additional vials with greater care and allowing temperatures to reach equilibrium, this made no difference.

After some searching, I found about a dozen individuals with this same issue from the source. When asked, the source blamed people and stated that HGH should only be reconned with sterile water and not bac water, and the fact that bac water was used is the issue.

I am hesitant to mention source name, as I am unable to post in the underground section (I made this account to get some advice on the above query).

What could be the cause of this particulate? I have attached an image of an offending vial. There are a lot more images from different people who have ordered also. Any ideas on the safety profile of such vials? None of have been used and none are planning on it. View attachment 328281

why would you hesitate to name this source, it would be in the sake of "Harm Reduction " to name this source so others are aware of this subpar product,, Come on man this is a harm reduction forum, not "protect the source" forum,,

 

[Sampei]

As part of a larger order, I purchased a HGH kit from a known supplier. Following recon with bac water, the HGH was cloudy and contained floting particulate, even after 24+ hours, some of which looked like tiny strings. I prepared additional vials with greater care and allowing temperatures to reach equilibrium, this made no difference.

After some searching, I found about a dozen individuals with this same issue from the source. When asked, the source blamed people and stated that HGH should only be reconned with sterile water and not bac water, and the fact that bac water was used is the issue.

I am hesitant to mention source name, as I am unable to post in the underground section (I made this account to get some advice on the above query).

What could be the cause of this particulate? I have attached an image of an offending vial. There are a lot more images from different people who have ordered also. Any ideas on the safety profile of such vials? None of have been used and none are planning on it. View attachment 328281

Who's the source name and shame

 

[Ateam2023]

As part of a larger order, I purchased a HGH kit from a known supplier. Following recon with bac water, the HGH was cloudy and contained floting particulate, even after 24+ hours, some of which looked like tiny strings. I prepared additional vials with greater care and allowing temperatures to reach equilibrium, this made no difference.

After some searching, I found about a dozen individuals with this same issue from the source. When asked, the source blamed people and stated that HGH should only be reconned with sterile water and not bac water, and the fact that bac water was used is the issue.

I am hesitant to mention source name, as I am unable to post in the underground section (I made this account to get some advice on the above query).

What could be the cause of this particulate? I have attached an image of an offending vial. There are a lot more images from different people who have ordered also. Any ideas on the safety profile of such vials? None of have been used and none are planning on it. View attachment 328281

i had some QSC hgh (red top 15 iu) do this, ive had to shitcan several vials so far, im glad its almost gone and i will be switching hgh brands to a much better quality hgh,,

 

[Ateam2023]

This kind of behavior from newbs, posting a clear problem with product, then keeping quiet about the vendor that is putting crap like this out, Wtf really, Do they not realize this is a "HARM REDUCTION" forum,, jfc people get it together or GTFO of here!!

 

[StoopidGoat]

This kind of behavior from newbs, posting a clear problem with product, then keeping quiet about the vendor that is putting crap View attachment 328329 like this out, Wtf really, Do they not realize this is a "HARM REDUCTION" forum,, jfc people get it together or GTFO of here!!

Apologies, I just seen the reply. I hesitated because I was unsure of the forum policy on such behaviour.

The kits are from SSA, from speaking to others, it seems specific to the H24 and H36 kits. When queried, SSA state that their HGH should only be used with sterile water, and not bac water, which is obviously nonsense.

After 2 weeks of contacting them trying to get a viable explanation, many of us have given up, hence this post.

 

[Ateam2023]

Apologies, I just seen the reply. I hesitated because I was unsure of the forum policy on such behaviour.

The kits are from SSA, from speaking to others, it seems specific to the H24 and H36 kits. When queried, SSA state that their HGH should only be used with sterile water, and not bac water, which is obviously nonsense.

After 2 weeks of contacting them trying to get a viable explanation, many of us have given up, hence this post.

Don't give up, otherwise they will continue to peddle trash like this , which is Unacceptable by any means, ,

 

[StoopidGoat]

Don't give up, otherwise they will continue to peddle trash like this , which is Unacceptable by any means, ,

I appreciate you actually acknowledging it's an issue, which is more than can be said for those in the telegram group. SSA are now at the point of actively ignoring discussion relating to this and the obvious presence of what appears to be aggregation following standard reconstitution. While they suggest it's caused by bac water, the reason justifying this bs explanation is unknown.

 

[Ateam2023]

Apologies, I just seen the reply. I hesitated because I was unsure of the forum policy on such behaviour.

The kits are from SSA, from speaking to others, it seems specific to the H24 and H36 kits. When queried, SSA state that their HGH should only be used with sterile water, and not bac water, which is obviously nonsense.

After 2 weeks of contacting them trying to get a viable explanation, many of us have given up, hence this post.

you could always "entertain" the sterile water as an experiment and video record the reconstitution process using there advice , and then after it fails theres proof that what they are saying is bs,

 

[Ateam2023]

I appreciate you actually acknowledging it's an issue, which is more than can be said for those in the telegram group. SSA are now at the point of actively ignoring discussion relating to this and the obvious presence of what appears to be aggregation following standard reconstitution. While they suggest it's caused by bac water, the reason justifying this bs explanation is unknown.

you should "be LOUD" and get as many people that have issues with this hgh to continue to voice there opinions , going silent is just what they do in hopes of people just "giving up" like they want, , "Squeeky door gets the oil" as the saying goes,,

 

[Ateam2023]

 

[Sampei]

Why don't you recon with sterile water and prove they are wrong lol

 

[StoopidGoat]

We have used sterile water, again as a collective across a few kits, resulting in the same issue. The response to this iirc was that it has to be THEIR sterile water.

We have tried different recon temps (cold, ambient, slightly warm), different volumes (1 - 3 mL) and are currently filtering to determine if particulate forms in the days following filtration. Simply to stubbornly demonstrate they are a full of nonsense after gaslighting those who raised concerns. Prior to making this thread, I did notice a few other members on here mention the same thing by searching extensively.

Some individuals on telegram state they have clear HGH, I thought the same about my subsequent vials until really taking a closer look at them. Its not just specific to cloudy vials.

 

[Ateam2023]

We have used sterile water, again as a collective across a few kits, resulting in the same issue. The response to this iirc was that it has to be THEIR sterile water.

We have tried different recon temps (cold, ambient, slightly warm), different volumes (1 - 3 mL) and are currently filtering to determine if particulate forms in the days following filtration. Simply to stubbornly demonstrate they are a full of nonsense after gaslighting those who raised concerns. Prior to making this thread, I did notice a few other members on here mention the same thing by searching extensively.

Some individuals on telegram state they have clear HGH, I thought the same about my subsequent vials until really taking a closer look at them. Its not just specific to cloudy vials.

what were the results after "filtering" it?

 

[StoopidGoat]

what were the results after "filtering" it?

Looks clear, one guy did say his still had a bit in it but I find it likely it's contamination that entered through his poor handling given 0.22 um particles are smaller than visible light.

I'll recon and filter some vials later and see what happens.

 

[Dunkirk]

Looks clear, one guy did say his still had a bit in it but I find it likely it's contamination that entered through his poor handling given 0.22 um particles are smaller than visible light.

I'll recon and filter some vials later and see what happens.

Keep us updated. Quite a few of us got their hgh

 

[StoopidGoat]

Keep us updated. Quite a few of us got their hgh

I filtered with a .22 um PES filter. Initial recon was with 2ml bac water. Pre-wet the .22 um by running some bac water through it. Took a while to get the HGH through but what has come out is night and day compared to what it was (even though I considered it relatively clear after recon). I'm going to see if it remains clear after 12 hours. Happy to share pics tomorrow. To emphasise, the filter output is flawless, it looks like pure water.

 

[Ateam2023]

I filtered with a .22 um PES filter. Initial recon was with 2ml bac water. Pre-wet the .22 um by running some bac water through it. Took a while to get the HGH through but what has come out is night and day compared to what it was (even though I considered it relatively clear after recon). I'm going to see if it remains clear after 12 hours. Happy to share pics tomorrow. To emphasise, the filter output is flawless, it looks like pure water.

what brand pes filters are you using?

 

[Ateam2023]

I filtered with a .22 um PES filter. Initial recon was with 2ml bac water. Pre-wet the .22 um by running some bac water through it. Took a while to get the HGH through but what has come out is night and day compared to what it was (even though I considered it relatively clear after recon). I'm going to see if it remains clear after 12 hours. Happy to share pics tomorrow. To emphasise, the filter output is flawless, it looks like pure water.

so to be clear, the recon vial was cloudy before this last filter run? Was it with floaties like the other?

 

[Dunkirk]

My concern with filtering HGH is that there are reports of it being damaged after the fact. Obviously you wouldn't want to inject it before filtering, but how much concentration do you get left with? Is it truly undamaged and only the bad particles got filtered out?