Combining Compounds

[SEOINAGE]

I'm really tempted to combine some things for my next cycle. I know it leaves less room for adjustments, but I can easily brew a small batch. This last cycle I got sick of drawing from all the different syringes and the amount of oil I was injecting.

I have seen some recipes that allow for this to work so that overall less oil is used, and therefore might fit in a 5/6ml syringe, which is still too much oil at once imo.

Thinking of combining test E, Nandrolone D in equal parts, And tren E at 2/3 or 1/2 the others.

Anyone have success with combining compounds, and have decent recipes?

 

[GearGodess]

what exact doses are you thinking?...short esters are typically better to do blends with 3 compounds... you can really benefit from high doses through one tiny shot....ideally you want to stay 500mg total or less otherwise it may be painful ...200/200/100... is totally doable... just adjust your recipes as all ratios stay the same except your g's of powder need to add up to that total when combined... for example, 500mg/ml 10mls - you would need 5g of powder... this works out to being 2g test e, 2g deca, 1g tren e

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm really tempted to combine some things for my next cycle. I know it leaves less room for adjustments, but I can easily brew a small batch. This last cycle I got sick of drawing from all the different syringes and the amount of oil I was injecting.

I have seen some recipes that allow for this to work so that overall less oil is used, and therefore might fit in a 5/6ml syringe, which is still too much oil at once imo.

Thinking of combining test E, Nandrolone D in equal parts, And tren E at 2/3 or 1/2 the others.

Anyone have success with combining compounds, and have decent recipes?

I had no issues with 150mg/ml deca and 250mg/ml test enan. I used 18%BB and 2% BA, the rest was MCT. It's still holding and virtually painless. I don't see why you couldn't do 200mg's/ml of each, if that's of interest.

 

[Wunderpus]

what exact doses are you thinking?...short esters are typically better to do blends with 3 compounds... you can really benefit from high doses through one tiny shot....ideally you want to stay 500mg total or less otherwise it may be painful ...200/200/100... is totally doable... just adjust your recipes as all ratios stay the same except your g's of powder need to add up to that total when combined... for example, 500mg/ml 10mls - you would need 5g of powder... this works out to being 2g test e, 2g deca, 1g tren e

While I agree with this statement, I certainly think there is a point of diminishing returns in regards to PIP. I have found 500mg's/ml to be awfully painful, whereas 400 is way less, and 300 is painless etc. I would rather pin a bit more oil, call it 1cc of the 400 blend and 1 cc of tren E @250mg's/ml. I suppose it's personal preference, but I've never found oil volume - to a degree - to be the cause of PIP. Rather it's been too concentrated gear in most of my experiences.

 

[SEOINAGE]

Yes I would prefer to do long esters, have used these compounds before together. I just don't want to pin all the time.

So if it was 200 mg/ml of deca and 200 mg/ml of test and 133 mg/ml of tren, it potentially could hold and not kill me. I generally use the 18 and 2% then rest sesame seed oil. I had some stupid painful prop once, but I think the issue was the source, junk gear, but I never used all that I made it was that bad.

I mean lets just say I was taking then 2.5 ml twice a week, that would be a gram of each deca and test, then 665mg of tren. If lets say it was too painful I could reformulate it to be 3ml twice a week, then I wouldn't have to use the stupid giant syringe that is slow as balls to inject with a 25g.

 

[GearGodess]

While I agree with this statement, I certainly think there is a point of diminishing returns in regards to PIP. I have found 500mg's/ml to be awfully painful, whereas 400 is way less, and 300 is painless etc. I would rather pin a bit more oil, call it 1cc of the 400 blend and 1 cc of tren E @250mg's/ml. I suppose it's personal preference, but I've never found oil volume - to a degree - to be the cause of PIP. Rather it's been too concentrated gear in most of my experiences.

I totally agree with you and you do make a valid point... I guess I should have mentioned that some people are more sensitive then others. It's something you get to figure out for yourself...Some are as sensitive that 100mg of prop cripples them, where others don't even blink at 400+mg blend...

 

[Wunderpus]

Yes I would prefer to do long esters, have used these compounds before together. I just don't want to pin all the time.

So if it was 200 mg/ml of deca and 200 mg/ml of test and 133 mg/ml of tren, it potentially could hold and not kill me. I generally use the 18 and 2% then rest sesame seed oil. I had some stupid painful prop once, but I think the issue was the source, junk gear, but I never used all that I made it was that bad.

I mean lets just say I was taking then 2.5 ml twice a week, that would be a gram of each deca and test, then 665mg of tren. If lets say it was too painful I could reformulate it to be 3ml twice a week, then I wouldn't have to use the stupid giant syringe that is slow as balls to inject with a 25g.

You could try it. Personally I'd still brew the deca/test then the tren separate. You'd do 2.5ml's 2x a week of the blend, and 2.5ml's of tren @250mg's/ml a week, however you wanna split it. Up to you man, I just don't love highly dosed gear.

Another option, is to do test and tren together, and deca @300. Deca being longer, you can pin just the deca 1 time a week w/o issue and holds at 300 no problem.

 

[GearGodess]

Yes I would prefer to do long esters, have used these compounds before together. I just don't want to pin all the time.

So if it was 200 mg/ml of deca and 200 mg/ml of test and 133 mg/ml of tren, it potentially could hold and not kill me. I generally use the 18 and 2% then rest sesame seed oil. I had some stupid painful prop once, but I think the issue was the source, junk gear, but I never used all that I made it was that bad.

I mean lets just say I was taking then 2.5 ml twice a week, that would be a gram of each deca and test, then 665mg of tren. If lets say it was too painful I could reformulate it to be 3ml twice a week, then I wouldn't have to use the stupid giant syringe that is slow as balls to inject with a 25g.

I think the issue is not whether or not it will hold, because it will... BUT if it will be painful to you... and if you will actually get to enjoy your cycle or be in pain...

 

[SEOINAGE]

I guess I'll just have to try it out before I make a ton, and see how the pain is. I could manage 3 pins a week, but not really wanting 4 or more if I can manage to make it work without.

 

[Wunderpus]

Make 20-30mls and try it

 

[Big_paul]

I would be more concerned about tissue damage from high dosed gear. Your carrier oil is harmless.

I'm one of the guys who will encourage you to keep dosages reasonable.

 

[Big_paul]

what exact doses are you thinking?...short esters are typically better to do blends with 3 compounds... you can really benefit from high doses through one tiny shot....ideally you want to stay 500mg total or less otherwise it may be painful ...200/200/100... is totally doable... just adjust your recipes as all ratios stay the same except your g's of powder need to add up to that total when combined... for example, 500mg/ml 10mls - you would need 5g of powder... this works out to being 2g test e, 2g deca, 1g tren e

Using long esters I agree. I brewed test undecaonate @ 500mg/ml 10-15 years ago and there was very little room left over for oil after adding solvents, but there was no pip.