Community Review: IndiaMart Ancillaries

ATTN ALL –

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Drop your suggestions, specific meds, categories, whatever questions you actually want answered. I’m planning to use Janoshik for proper analytical testing.
so we get real LCMS and HPLC data, not “trust me friend" results.

Just some context for those new to India Pharma

Despite this is an AAS forum, weird as it sound, I wouldn't test any AAS products unless you use them. Those who want to purchase and use them....should be the one testing them and not relying on others. The only exception would probably be the VAR10 but other than that I wouldn't bother.

Similarly for products sold in both India and US, these are both FDA and India government regulated, there's not much point in testing them. Now for those who decide to purchase products from UGL India vendors or products neither regulated by India nor USA, then obviously they know the risk and are expected to do their own due diligence, same as purchasing from any UGL vendors here..

For those who aren't aware, testing medications are $400+ at Jano for non steroids or dick pills. That $0.1 imeglimin pill will cost you close to $500 just to test a few tabs. I'm not sure if it's worth testing tbh..

Only product i think is worth testing is HGH and maybe fertility medication, if you start a group fund I'm sure you can get enough people to help out. Each HGH test is $420, assuming you test 5 brands, that's about 2k excluding shipping. HCG is $180..so the cost does add up.
 
The list is kinda long though so give me your opinion. I'm obviously going to include the lowest prices, and most reliable easy to deal with but I'm currently sitting just over 50 solid vendors and testing 50% of that. I'm thinking if I narrow it down to 25 on the list from highest to lowest??? Let me know what you think, as no matter what I will miss many good ones others have used I'm sure.

What's going to happen is that everyone's going to just hit the lowest priced vendor lol.

I'd probably just list the top 10 you feel is the best in terms of prices+reliability, without ranking them, and let people figure out which they prefer. The truth is that many of them quote different prices, depending on stock and orders they get and that'd hopefully at least help balance out the volume of traffic they get..

(Keep the best 3 to yourself and not share it..)
 
What's going to happen is that everyone's going to just hit the lowest priced vendor lol.

I'd probably just list the top 10 you feel is the best in terms of prices+reliability, without ranking them, and let people figure out which they prefer. The truth is that many of them quote different prices, depending on stock and orders they get and that'd hopefully at least help balance out the volume of traffic they get..

(Keep the best 3 to yourself and not share it..)
Thanks man I value and appreciate your opinion.

That makes sense because everything they tell me is:
" Americans buy junk products, why is your list all top manufacturers"

Also and thanks again I don't know much about testing this kind of stuff, honestly I started paying attention to you and Readalot quite a bit to gather knowledge.

May readalot be at peace wherever he is... Hahaha
 
I also saw it and asked about omnitrope and primo here.
I also asked rohit for a real picture of omnitrope from that warehouse, he told me to wait but this was one week ago and everytime I asked he ignored it so I gave up asking. He told me the country in which that warehouse is based(I won't share it here but you can ask him) and that country+the low price left me uncertain that it could be counterfeit, also because it's right next to kigtropin which has a bad reputation and also evogene I knew that the company had been closed and they were arrested, I don't know if it is still manufactured today... Another concern is that omnitrope is usually already in liquid form so it has to be stored properly and also the shipping puts heat/cold stress on it.
Right now we don't really know how genuine it is but if this ends up being good stuff I think that would be awesome. Pharma quality+great price? I think we all would start buying tons of it haha
I think he offer the classical eastern eu fakes/replicas.Pregnyl,kigtropin,evogene,etc

But I don't know why...
 
So for us europeans the only tested and working way is Rohit's real eu domestic warehouse?
I don't know much about shipping through EU. But is it strictly harder because the origin is India? China? So on...

For instance if the origin country was USA? Would EU have leniency due to the status of US in the global market? Typically most substances come into the US not the other way around.
 
So for us europeans the only tested and working way is Rohit's real eu domestic warehouse?
But rohit doesnt seem to have all the stuff in europe, what if we could find a indian vendor willing to do legit stealth shipping do u think delivery would be easier then?or does all european countries just flag all the indian parcels? Anyone any insights on this ?
 
I don't know much about shipping through EU. But is it strictly harder because the origin is India? China? So on...

For instance if the origin country was USA? Would EU have leniency due to the status of US in the global market? Typically most substances come into the US not the other way around.
I think the origin is mostly the problem. Rohit ships to UK or US first and forwards then to EU.

Are you in the US and willing to try it out
 
I think he offer the classical eastern eu fakes/replicas.Pregnyl,kigtropin,evogene,etc

But I don't know why...
I think the same.. he told me that particular warehouse is not his property but it is a partner, but still, if he has a partnership with someone who sells counterfeit stuff it's not a good thing..
 
But rohit doesnt seem to have all the stuff in europe, what if we could find a indian vendor willing to do legit stealth shipping do u think delivery would be easier then?or does all european countries just flag all the indian parcels? Anyone any insights on this ?
Hard to clear eu customs directly from India.Some countrys maybe more easy to pass than others (like France)but now it's over.
 
But rohit doesnt seem to have all the stuff in europe, what if we could find a indian vendor willing to do legit stealth shipping do u think delivery would be easier then?or does all european countries just flag all the indian parcels? Anyone any insights on this ?
I Asked him why not fill the eu domestic warehouse with Indian product?
His answer was he can ship to Uk or Usa first ,then to eu...
 
I think the same.. he told me that particular warehouse is not his property but it is a partner, but still, if he has a partnership with someone who sells counterfeit stuff it's not a good thing..
Shady somehow...
You must choose only the well known products.
 
Same limited stock with bad prices as all others
from what ive seen a bunch of indian vendors have a poland warehouse i asked one he told many share the same warehouse , likely its some other person who many indian vendors have partnered with.
 
Hard to clear eu customs directly from India.Some countrys maybe more easy to pass than others (like France)but now it's over.
So which countries in EU do u think it is easiest to pass to, name a few?
if an indian vendor labels the products as cosmetics or something else also would it still be hard to pass, and even send it using some courier such as fedex?
 
ATTN ALL –

If you’re watching the India medication market, I want to hear from you, what would YOU most want to see independently tested and verified? I’m seriously considering funding some real lab work myself. I’m not rich, but I’m comfortable enough, and I’ve got more time on my hands lately than I know what to do with. Instead of questioning things in circles online, I’d rather put money toward actual data that helps everyone. At this moment it's not a full on yes decision, and I'm not asking for contributions from anyone. If I decide it's good to do and worth it I'll foot the bill.

Here’s where my head is at. For the big, established Indian pharma companies, Zydus, Cipla, Sun, Dr. Reddy’s, Sanofi India, Mankind, HAB, Concern, and others, the manufacturing standards are already solid. These are WHO/GMP, export level companies. Testing their legitimate pharmacy products usually just confirms what we already expect, tablets tend to hit label claim, excipient profiles are clean, and contamination risk is low. So testing those mostly answers one question, is the product genuine or counterfeit? That still has value, but it’s different from proving whether the manufacturer knows what they’re doing.

Where it gets interesting is with the products that actually are made by real Indian pharma versus the stuff that clearly isn’t. Some things are legitimately produced there, like Zydus mesterolone, which is a real prescription product, or medical dose oxandrolone that exists for burn recovery and wasting conditions. Methandienone/Test so on all has a historical pharma presence in India, though modern high dose “blast” versions are often something else entirely. Testing in these areas would answer real questions, is the API actually what the strip claims, is the dose accurate, or has something been substituted? Repackage?

Then there are the true wildcards. Any Indian HGH is at the top of my curiosity list. HCG after real shipping exposure, newer metabolic meds like imeglimin, and anything marketed as export only would also be worth a hard look. Biologics are where we’d learn the most, actual IU content, dimer levels, degradation from heat, and whether the vial even contains the right molecule at all.

We also have to be honest about another reality. A lot of products floating around with labels like “Cipla Tren,” “Sun Pharma Anavar 50,” or “Dr Reddy Test 300” are almost certainly not coming from those companies. Testing would be evaluating the product in front of us, not validating Cipla or Sun quality. That’s fine, but the goal needs to be harm reduction and truth, not brand worshiping.

So I want your input. If we picked the top five items the community actually wants tested, what should they be? My first vote is any and all Indian HGH, just to see what’s real, what’s relabeled, and what actually survives shipping (storage conditions), but I want to nature this down further to obvious manufacturing dates to coincide with the testing. I don't want to test HGH from last year obviously.

After that I’m thinking things like Zydus mesterolone as a real pharma benchmark, medicaldose oxandrolone strips, HCG post shipping, and maybe one of the newer metabolic meds.


Drop your suggestions, specific meds, categories, whatever questions you actually want answered. I’m planning to use Janoshik for proper analytical testing.
so we get real LCMS and HPLC data, not “trust me friend" results.

I'm know expert in this area, so I'm just getting my feet wet, hit me with knowledge things to look for and so on.

And for those who asked India does provide lab testing like Janoshik. The pricing if confirmed is significantly cheaper as to be expected.
Is be interested in HCG also. I find it such a mystery that we have these like 8 Janoshik reports of Indian HCG that all came back 90% underdosed and one brand was double the dose.

Apart from that it would just be
HGH, Test, Primo, Mast
 
So which countries in EU do u think it is easiest to pass to, name a few?
if an indian vendor labels the products as cosmetics or something else also would it still be hard to pass, and even send it using some courier such as fedex?
He sent me the price list for his supposed European warehouse, but the brands he carries are the same ones you can buy from other suppliers. Besides, he has the Thaiger brand, which sells counterfeit products, and Genetik, which I've never heard of, and their prices for medicine are terrible. Ideally, he should be able to ship his Indian products to Europe; shipping to Spain seems difficult due to customs.
 

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