Community Review: IndiaMart Ancillaries

[BALLISTIC]

Is this my sign to order more tren? Haha good shit bro

Yeah bro, I really think it's targeted operations. It seemed it was tight during that week everyone mentioned snags. But I also really considered the winter storm in our US situation. I still stand firmly to get what you can while the getting is good. This is going to get pinched without a doubt eventually.

Appreciate it, thank you!!

Absolutely man, without being rude to the culture... They operate like sharks and con artist. It was mentioned above and not every vendor can offer every product. Put together a detailed quote. Think everything you will need. Blast as many as you can stand. I then dump all quotes into AI for comparison and red flags. Once I have what I need I attack the vendors with others quotes, or have AI consolidate the items with best pricing and serve that saying "this is what I'll pay, take it or leave it"... They might even say no sir, then leave it, they'll text you back eventually. They make a commission on the sale. If you need an example of a quote let me know, this way you can see how I send and they have a really easy time knowing what exactly I'm requesting.

 

[bananafeet]

Yeah bro, I really think it's targeted operations. It seemed it was tight during that week everyone mentioned snags. But I also really considered the winter storm in our US situation. I still stand firmly to get what you can while the getting is good. This is going to get pinched without a doubt eventually.


Absolutely man, without being rude to the culture... They operate like sharks and con artist. It was mentioned above and not every vendor can offer every product. Put together a detailed quote. Think everything you will need. Blast as many as you can stand. I then dump all quotes into AI for comparison and red flags. Once I have what I need I attack the vendors with others quotes, or have AI consolidate the items with best pricing and serve that saying "this is what I'll pay, take it or leave it"... They might even say no sir, then leave it, they'll text you back eventually. They make a commission on the sale.

Me after haggling with them for 30 seconds:

 

[BALLISTIC]

Me after haggling with them for 30 seconds:
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Dude it is, and I send everything so organized to make it simplistic. A few will use my template and just add pricing, some will discombobulate the whole thing, mix it up in a hat, then drop on the floor.

 

[a1b2c3]

I'd definitely appreciate an example. I've had no idea that they operate like that.

I was honestly wondering - if one finished ampoule costs, let's say, 70 cents, from the India Mart seller, how much did everything that went into it cost?? You have labour, you have transportation, you have materials (glass, oil, test, preservative etc.), you have storage, you have the end seller?? Might sound naive, but I never thought that they had such margins.

 

[bananafeet]

I'd definitely appreciate an example. I've had no idea that they operate like that.

I was honestly wondering - if one finished ampoule costs, let's say, 70 cents, from the India Mart seller, how much did everything that went into it cost?? You have labour, you have transportation, you have materials (glass, oil, test, preservative etc.), you have storage, you have the end seller?? Might sound naive, but I never thought that they had such margins.

I think you will find at the lower prices the test amps are loss leaders or low margin products.

They will get you on the other random stuff you order. That's why I usually just get one type of product from each seller as they all have different price points. De Mega for example has absolutely shit pricing on generics and ancillaries.

Kachella Medex sell their own product for MORE than De Mega does. Obviously it's not worth it for them unless they are making a retail markup to do door sales.

A better way to approach this would be to order as much as you can possibly afford and plan ahead. You never know when it's gonna get shut down. I'd be ordering 2 year supplies of everything.

People were warned to stock up before by @Ghoul and didn't listen. The market is still fubar over a year later.....

 

[bananafeet]

For example at one point Tracy was selling kits of Test E/C that had batch testing, heavy metal testing and endotoxin testing for $65.

You will never see that again in your lifetime.

 

[a1b2c3]

I've always been like a chipmunk. I feel better when I am stocked. I'm trying to order, like you say, two years' worth.

A question regarding HCG, I've stumbled upon a Reddit post with Jano tests of (I think all?) the HCG brands in India, which were either waaaay underdosed, or severely overdosed.

Can we speculate that what has happened is akin to the one Accufine test that showed them being underdosed (because of the Indian heat?).

I have HCG from China atm, but I can get some Zydus with my order as well.

Hopefully, shopping from India won't be going anywhere in a while because it tickles the brain a lot more than shopping from China, lol.

 

[bananafeet]

I've always been like a chipmunk. I feel better when I am stocked. I'm trying to order, like you say, two years' worth.

A question regarding HCG, I've stumbled upon a Reddit post with Jano tests of (I think all?) the HCG brands in India, which were either waaaay underdosed, or severely overdosed.

Can we conclude that what has happened is akin to the one Accufine test that showed them being underdosed (because of the Indian heat?).

I have HCG from China atm, but I can get some Zydus with my order as well.

Hopefully, shopping from India won't be going anywhere in a while because it tickles the brain a lot more than shopping from China, lol.

I think telmisartan will be here for cheap from India. But they are deathly afraid of export customs. If they get complaints from carriers about oils or vials it could be shut down overnight.

Hcg is notorious to test. Search up janoshik and HCG. I just got the Zydus stuff and pin it and forget it. If it works it works.

 

[SpaceGhost]

For example at one point Tracy was selling kits of Test E/C that had batch testing, heavy metal testing and endotoxin testing for $65.

You will never see that again in your lifetime.

I'm so glad I had fomo back then. Between all the cheap kits and raws I'll probably never have to buy test again. Wish I had that kind of foresight with primo.

 

[BALLISTIC]

I just got the Zydus stuff and pin it and forget it. If it works it works.

Lupin here and I received today. Haha
I'm the same mindset, if it works it works. For the price I paid, it's pointless to complain.

 

[NebuLix]

Lupin here and I received today. Haha
I'm the same mindset, if it works it works. For the price I paid, it's pointless to complain.

What price did you get it for?

I asked one which actually got shipping working to the EU and the price was comparable to Chinese Pharma HCG.

I‘ve read th same post about undersized Indian HCG and decided to go with the Chinese HCG and HMG (both Pharma).

I think it’s mainly due to the storage conditions and then you don’t really know what you get.

Btw Lupin was the only one in the Reddit post which actually tested near the declared content

 

[aromatizer]

Tried to transfer Zydus test E ampoules to a vial via the backfill method into a 10ml syringe ready for filtering. That was the theory. After the first 3 vials, I was wondering why I only had about one and half ml of oil. Rookie mistake not noticing oil stuck in the cap. The bigger problem is that the zydus amps refuse to break cleanly, showering microscopic shards of glass everywhere. I ended breaking them open in the kitchen sink to catch the debris and even that didn't work as a cap went flying in the air and across the room and heard it bouncing around the tiles. A search couldn't find the offending fugitive, and had to vacuum up the entire floor to rescue it and other pieces I missed before the wife got back home. Extracting 1 ml out of the ampoules is harder then it looks. Aside from oil hiding in the cap, there is loss from oil sticking to the glass and the oil almost always stubbornly refuses to evacuate despite repeated taping on the bench. The stickers on the amps cover virtually the entire amp, making it hard to see whats left. Switching to a blunt fill needle didn't fair much better. In the end I managed to convert 20ml of product into all of 8ml of filtered oil and called it a day.

 

[Photon]

Tried to transfer Zydus test E ampoules to a vial via the backfill method into a 10ml syringe ready for filtering. That was the theory. After the first 3 vials, I was wondering why I only had about one and half ml of oil. Rookie mistake not noticing oil stuck in the cap. The bigger problem is that the zydus amps refuse to break cleanly, showering microscopic shards of glass everywhere. I ended breaking them open in the kitchen sink to catch the debris and even that didn't work as a cap went flying in the air and across the room and heard it bouncing around the tiles. A search couldn't find the offending fugitive, and had to vacuum up the entire floor to rescue it and other pieces I missed before the wife got back home. Extracting 1 ml out of the ampoules is harder then it looks. Aside from oil hiding in the cap, there is loss from oil sticking to the glass and the oil almost always stubbornly refuses to evacuate despite repeated taping on the bench. The stickers on the amps cover virtually the entire amp, making it hard to see whats left. Switching to a blunt fill needle didn't fair much better. In the end I managed to convert 20ml of product into all of 8ml of filtered oil and called it a day.

Do you have a shot glass?
Glass cup?
Whisky?

You can break all your amps into them first then backfill the syringe.