compound choices

[cbol]

wanted to get peoples opinions on this

over the years different compounds and choices seem to be changing, you hear some old timers who were dbol only or some who swear by deca and sustanon, it seems to be leaning more now towards primo and test, now with the shortages everyone seems to be going eq and test etc, regardless of this looking back as far as the 60s they all seem to have very good physiques

my question is this 90 percent of cycles start with the foundation of testosterone regardless of esters as it is the bio identical hormone, the secondary compounds other than affects that each compound might have wether its dht based or its a 19 nor, such as deca helping with joints or anavar potentially helping with visceral fat, or primo or mast being deployed so you can help keep your e2 in check, plus the synergy of the compounds working with each other

do any of these compounds actually build more muscle tissue than an another compound relative to the dose, im not talking about water here from raised e2 levels, because take dbol and you put 5 pound on overnight it seems like, im talking about solid tissue

if you took an amount of test that you didnt aromatise on lets say 300, 300t & primo vs 300 t and 300 deca, do all compounds accrue muscle tissue at the same rate if all variables are the same diet, supplements, timings etc

asking this question because iv seen a lot of conflicting views on this where some people believe one thing and others believe the opposite

 

[Zc7219]

if you took an amount of test that you didnt aromatise on lets say 300, 300t & primo vs 300 t and 300 deca, do all compounds accrue muscle tissue at the same rate if all variables are the same diet, supplements, timings etc

asking this question because iv seen a lot of conflicting views on this where some people believe one thing and others believe the opposite

People say they do but I highly doubt it.

1000 test will put on more muscle than 200 test 800 mast/primo.

 

[Isrrike]

They all produce different “looks”

 

[BALLISTIC]

At the end of the day, growth comes from androgen receptor activation, increased nitrogen retention, elevated protein synthesis, improved recovery, and myonuclei accretion. In that sense a mg of AAS is just a mg of AAS, and if diet/training/sleep are tight, most compounds can put muscle on.

A guy running 300 Test + 300 Primo vs. 300 Test + 300 Deca will both grow if the foundation is there.

The argument is that certain compounds will and can cause different effects as clearly indicated through past practice.

Short answer: Yes, most compounds can build a similar amount of muscle at equal androgen load. The difference is how fast, how lean, and at what cost to health.

 

[IndividualMan]

Its all the same.
The only difference is the side effects/unwanted effects like low/high E2, high water retention, impact on lipids, joints, Neurotoxicity, nephrotoxicity, etc.

Obviously there are marginal differences between compounds and between individuals, (some people enjoy Nandrolone, some peopel enjoy EQ, some people enjoy high dose mast and looking like a 90year old man ballsack while never finishing their education as a medical professional and still putting MD in their YT video titles, and some people enjoy tren)

Obviously there are compounds with a higher efficiency for muscle buidling per mg, especially in the short term, such as MENT, Tren, Anadrol, Sdrol, and others with lower effectiveness for muscle building such as Halotestin or Tbol, but in the grand scheme of things, its almost all the same.

The goal is just to find the ones you can take the highest dose of of while not compromising your health too much, so you can run it for the longest possible amount of time without killing yourself too quick and feeling like shit.

 

[Isrrike]

It also depends on the time of year. The goal is to always add muscle as a bodybuilder but at different times say like Usually in the summer, you’re going to not want to hold onto a lot of water look more leaner and harder.

I’ll give you an example as I have a wedding in Mexico coming up first week of February. I’m starting my next blast this week which will be 5 iu gh 450 test 300 primo and either dbol or tbol for the first 4 weeks. Probably dbol at 10-20mg. By the second week of January I’ll be pulling the dbol and give two weeks to piss all the water retention out and up my test and primo by 100mg respectively to continue on. By the time I’m in Mexico I should look a little more bigger, full and harder than when I was cruising and continue on when I get back.

If I didn’t have anything planned all winter up here in Canada we’re not going to no beaches anytime soon I can pack on the wet compounds in a mass phase and pull the wet shit out in time for spring. Plenty of variables with what compounds to use , why and when.