Compound Moves an AAS

[Skull]

How important are the big three for gaining mass while on aas?? Do you really need heavy squats an deads while cycling. Doesnt the aas make you gain just by doing isolated moves or are they still a must. Dont get me wrong because i love my deads, squats, an bench an i will continue to do them no matter what anyway. Im just curious to hear some thoughts about this one. So please dont bash me for this odd question an post away!!!

 

[brutus79]

How important are the big three for gaining mass while on aas?? Do you really need heavy squats an deads while cycling. Doesnt the aas make you gain just by doing isolated moves or are they still a must. Dont get me wrong because i love my deads, squats, an bench an i will continue to do them no matter what anyway. Im just curious to hear some thoughts about this one. So please dont bash me for this odd question an post away!!!

Depends on your goals. If you are a powerlifter it would be a stupid question- your entire training regimen should revolve around them... if you are simply looking to get "big" you don't necessarily need them- but who the fuck would want to avoid them? They are really the only things I enjoy doing until I puke... isolations increase my measurements; compounds make me a beast.

 

[Skull]

thanks brutus an thats the kind of attitude i like to hear!! im deff going to keep doing them just because i like the rush i get!! Im not so worried about wanting to be the strongest guy in the room. I want to be the one with the most mass on this 5'4" frame as possible!!!

 

[Millard]

How important are the big three for gaining mass while on aas??

Just as important as when you are not on AAS. Results are all about training/nutrition. AAS just amplify recovery/response.

 

[Docd187123]

IMO, while you can gain mass without them, they are irreplaceable when it comes to your training. People often underestimate just how many muscles the big compound movements involve. Between press, deadlifts, and squats there's no muscle group not involved in the lifts. They also help drive progress in other lifts which further aids hypertrophy. You can also load them up far more than isolation lifts. I think they should be mandatory lifts everyone does, except in the case of an injury, regardless of the goals

 

[Millard]

Every time someone asks me how to build bigger arms, I always tell them to squat more.

 

[Skull]

Just as important as when you are not on AAS. Results are all about training/nutrition. AAS just amplify recovery/response.

Ya that's one of the best things I liked about my last cycle!! Hitting with 110% an wake up the next day feeling refreshed with very little soreness involved!!

 

[Skull]

IMO, while you can gain mass without them, they are irreplaceable when it comes to your training. People often underestimate just how many muscles the big compound movements involve. Between press, deadlifts, and squats there's no muscle group not involved in the lifts. They also help drive progress in other lifts which further aids hypertrophy. You can also load them up far more than isolation lifts. I think they should be mandatory lifts everyone does, except in the case of an injury, regardless of the goals

they do work out a lot of groups that's for sure!! I love my big three an doo them more than a do islation on a regular! Wish I could do them more often but I stay sore for a few days after words lol!!

 

[Millard]

Ya that's one of the best things I liked about my last cycle!! Hitting with 110% an wake up the next day feeling refreshed with very little soreness involved!!

It's the recovery aspects that help athletes who have no interest in increasing muscle mass. In a lot of ways, I think it would be much more accurate to call AAS recovery-enhancing drugs rather than performance-enhancing drugs.

 

[Skull]

Every time someone asks me how to build bigger arms, I always tell them to squat more.

Iv read about that an it says something about the bigger compound moves release more growth hormones into the body!! They maybe wrong but that's just what iv read!! Thanks for the post my friend!!!

 

[Docd187123]

they do work out a lot of groups that's for sure!! I love my big three an doo them more than a do islation on a regular! Wish I could do them more often but I stay sore for a few days after words lol!!

Building up to doing them more frequently is possible. Up until 3 weeks ago I was squatting 3x a week and soreness was a rarity even with working a physical job. Squats are an addiction of mine hahaha

 

[Skull]

It's the recovery aspects that help athletes who have no interest in increasing muscle mass. In a lot of ways, I think it would be much more accurate to call AAS recovery-enhancing drugs rather than performance-enhancing drugs.

This is true an I believe it helps you get bigger because you recover so fast you can continue to work out on a much more frequent basis!! Oh an the increase in strength helps to push beyond what you normally could normally do so your body has no choice but to grow so it can adapt!! Im not very knowledgeable in all of this but that is just my outlook on aas!! Thanks for commenting brother!!

 

[Skull]

Building up to doing them more frequently is possible. Up until 3 weeks ago I was squatting 3x a week and soreness was a rarity even with working a physical job. Squats are an addiction of mine hahaha

I work at a saw mill an it is very physical labor as well. I have to time it just right while im natty so I do my squats usually on Thursday. that way the next day I start hurting but by Saturday its hard to even sit down an sometimes im even still just a little sore when Monday comes rolling around!!

 

[weighted chinup]

Not to mention all the advantages and improvements they give towards athleticism in general, they are irreplaceable even if your goal is bodybuilding imo.

Heavy rowing and heavy weighted chin ups done with enough volume has been responsible for the majority of my bicep related gains for example. I only do 1 bicep curl variant and that is more than enough. I could probably drop it and not lose much, if anything really.

Same story with legs. I don't even really bother doing leg ext. or leg curl these days, my leg training consists entirely of romanian deadlifts and front squat. Personally I'd rather just front squat more instead of doing additional isolation movements. Getting stronger in front squat is going to do more for my quad development than anything else.

I think they are important and beneficial for pretty much everyone.

 

[Skull]

Not to mention all the advantages and improvements they give towards athleticism in general, they are irreplaceable even if your goal is bodybuilding imo.

Heavy rowing and heavy weighted chin ups done with enough volume has been responsible for the majority of my bicep related gains for example. I only do 1 bicep curl variant and that is more than enough. I could probably drop it and not lose much, if anything really.

Same story with legs. I don't even really bother doing leg ext. or leg curl these days, my leg training consists entirely of romanian deadlifts and front squat. Personally I'd rather just front squat more instead of doing additional isolation movements. Getting stronger in front squat is going to do more for my quad development than anything else.

I think they are important and beneficial for pretty much everyone.

Thank you for taking the time an educating me in this aspect! Your answer is very well appreciated an ill put that in my memory storage for safe keeping lol. Thanks again for your advice as it has been well taken!!

 

[MANWHORE]

I did a lot of heavy squats and deads all
through my BBing hobby.. 30 years ..32 maybe

My back is very strong.
I never hurt it picking up some heavy shit, twisting,
jerking it... almost had 300lbs take my head to the mat,
but even bent at the waste, my lower back took it all back up and fast.. no damage..
well nothing I can see or feel

Those heavy movements will build power that will
help you not hurt yourself or take someone down fast when
you need too.. maybe a terrorist, then you get a medal and free coffee for life..

Those movements will also build muscle all around
with less time than isolation movements but there needs to be healthy breaks
for joint recovery or you will get hurt.. possibly do permanent damage to your body
then it will be harder to bang your neighbors wife like she needs it..

Since I can't get the heavy weight in the gym,
I have my 115lb girl kneel on my back for pushups sometimes,
I will start doing hyperextensions to keep my lower back strong
and.. I guess all I can do for squats is learn one legged squats
cause 115lbs on my back is not much..

I will start pullups when I get bar or something to hang on..
O yea one handed pushups I do sometimes..

I wanna set a punching bag in the garage and start boxing again..
I don't like cardio but I love boxing.. My girl said I can.. It is her house

 

[Skull]

That's awesome manwhore! Thanks so much for the advice! I will continue my big three compound moves and you know something else. Since I have been doing them more often a have become far more bulkier so their must be truth behind all of the talk! I once new a guy that's the same height as me which is 5'4" tall but he was 220lbs granted he had a little bit of body fat but was not at all obsess!! He was totally natty an looked like a monstrous ass brick shit house! Im sure a lot has part to do with good genetics because he was a big boned guy with big elbows, wrists, hands, knees, ankles, neck, an a big ol noggin on him lol!! I asked him how did you get so damn bulky an how can I get a bigger chest an shit!! He said heavy squats an deads are the key to major growt in the human body!! I thought to myself hes got to be joking right?? Now I can see a huge difference in me muscle structure since I have been doing these for years now!! Thanks for your answer manwhore!! Peace out!!

 

[MANWHORE]

Also, always try everything for yourself, because
not everyone knows how they got the way they are..

Asking the guy in the gym with the biggest
calves, how to get big calves is probably not a good idea..
He probably had good genetics or big calfs to begin with..

 

[Skull]

Also, always try everything for yourself, because
not everyone knows how they got the way they are..

Asking the guy in the gym with the biggest
calves, how to get big calves is probably not a good idea..
He probably had good genetics or big calfs to begin with..

very true an genetics do play a big role in BB I believe!!

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Body building IS genetics