Conciliator - DNP Body Temp Question

srch4info

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Conciliator,

You know I read the logs and DNP info, but quite a bit of the information has gotten buried so I would like to ask a straight forward question regarding body temperature that won't get buried in a log or lengthy thread... I hope this helps everyone:

While on my cycle and monitoring my temp, what is the range I should be maintaining and what should be considered maximum?

Any info and guidelines would be appreciated...
 
no higher than 99.3. So anything up to that is normal any higher, you need to lower the dose immediatley for it can spiral out of control quickly.
 
I would say that ~99f is still low grade. However, as soon as I increased my dose; my temp was climbing pretty quickly.

Be careful. You will still get losses at a medium dose over a longer period.

The sides aren't worth it.
 
starz thanks for the reply... I must admit that seems really low but then again I know that normal body temp is actually 98.2 plus or minus 0.6, a range of 97.6° to 98.8... and I personally tend to run closer to the low end so 99.3 would actually be pretty high for me

Now I'm wondering a few more things... do high doses of DNP (300-400mg) always raise your temp near the 99.3 mark? If I am already at 98.9 with 200mg/day what are the chances that another 100mg daily will raise me past that mark ?
 
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beezil said:
I would say that ~99f is still low grade. However, as soon as I increased my dose; my temp was climbing pretty quickly.

Be careful. You will still get losses at a medium dose over a longer period.

The sides aren't worth it.
99.3 is not low grade for dnp. You don't want to run fevers, that starts getting dangerous. You don't want 100 deg. temps and go to the gym or do anything for that matter.
 
Is there a point of diminishing returns when thinking about DNP dosages. If your temp raises too high because of a high dose would protein denaturation occur, starving your muscles?
 
jsupstarz said:
99.3 is not low grade for dnp. You don't want to run fevers, that starts getting dangerous. You don't want 100 deg. temps and go to the gym or do anything for that matter.

My mom was a nurse and always called 99 a "low grade fever" so I'm not sure what you mean by not low grade for DNP... if someones normal temp is 98.6 or 98.8 is half a degree really that significant? ...I am only questioning BUT I am not disagreeing at all... it's definitely not normal or even comfortable to have a 100 degree temp
 
srch4info said:
My mom was a nurse and always called 99 a "low grade fever" so I'm not sure what you mean by not low grade for DNP... if someones normal temp is 98.6 or 98.8 is half a degree really that significant? ...I am only questioning BUT I am not disagreeing at all... it's definitely not normal or even comfortable to have a 100 degree temp
I am a nurse and 99 is not a low grade fever. 100 deg. to 101.5 is low grade. But for dnp 99.3 is the upper limits for what you want to be at so it's considered higher as in not low grade FOR dnp. SEE. And half a degree isn't that significant depending on where you are on the thermometer. On dnp the difference between 99.0 and 99.5 Would be a big difference. But see normal temps rarely run @ 98.6, you have to go by YOUR personall normal temp in this situation. If you usuall run 96.7 - 99 may be getting up there for you. MOst people all run less than 98.6 keep that in mind. That is just a general norm, like blood glucose. SEE>
 
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As many people have heard me say, if your temperature is over 99.2/99.3, you need to back off on your DNP dosage or even discontinue use. I didn't just come up with this number myself though. This comes from the most extensive human study on DNP to date. In 1937 Simkins studied the effects of DNP on 159 subjects who were kept on DNP for many months to over a year. It's worth noting that he looked at a number of different markers of health, reporting no hepatotoxicity, no renal toxicity, no cardiovascular effects (except for a marked drop in blood pressure in hypertensive patients), no cardiotoxicity, no consistent effect on blood sugar, an improvement in carbohydrate tolerance, negligible effects on the gastro-intestinal tract, and no effect on blood cholesterol.

With respect to body temperature, he explained, "The temperature, pulse rate, and respiration were carefully watched. It was found that the temperature is an excellent guide of impending toxicity. The rule was followed invariably that, when the temperature rose as high as 99.2 F., the drug was either discontinued or the dosage sharply reduced. In this way, many impending reactions were avoided. The temperature usually remained well within the normal limits."

I think that temperature is an excellent yardstick. While a degree may not seem that much, when your temperature starts to rise above the normal range, it means that the heat being produced from uncoupling has started to outstrip your ability to radiate heat. When this happens, your temperature can quickly get out of control, especially as you increase the dosage or even as the same dosage accumulates. Keeping your temperature in the normal range (under 99.2) demonstrates proper thermoreguation. It shows that you're able to safely radiate the increase in heat production.

To answer srch4info, high doses of DNP do NOT always raise your temp near 99.3. There's a great deal of variation in individual response to DNP. While some people can produce a fever with as little as 300mg/day, others can take 600mg/day and still be under 99 degrees. There are a number of different factors involved: people metabolize DNP at different rates, some people are larger than others so that a given dosage is lower relative to their bodyweight, and some people seem better able to radiate heat. All of these factors and more make dosage prescriptions extremely individual with DNP. For this reason, sweeping generalizations for dosing are completely inadequate. Users need to start with a low dosage and slowly increase it until they find the dosage that's right for them, be it 200mg/day or 600mg/day. As a rough, general guideline, though, I'd say 200mg/day is a low dosage, 400mg/day is a moderate dosage, and 600mg/day is a high (read: unsafe) dosage.

To answer litterbox, there's no point of diminishing returns in terms of DNP's ability to increase metabolic rate. It'll keep uncoupling more and more until so much heat is produced that you get hyperthermia and ultimately die. Of course, when organs start to get damaged and proteins start to denature, I think we can agree that your returns are diminishing. We could call death the ultimate diminution in return. Barring toxicity, though, an increase in heat, per se, doesn't appear to diminish DNP's effect at increasing metabolic rate and oxidation of fat.

-Conciliator
 
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Well that should certainly make this crystal clear to anyone looking for an answer regarding temperature and DNP dosing... a search with some simple key words will definitely provide the info.

THANKS to everyone for their help!!!
 
jsupstarz said:
99.3 is not low grade for dnp. You don't want to run fevers, that starts getting dangerous. You don't want 100 deg. temps and go to the gym or do anything for that matter.


when my temp increased... my energy level was so low; going to the office or the gym was the last thing on my mind. Getting a cold shower was #1.... However, based on what I understand Concilliator to say.... taking a cold shower may cause other issues?? On set of Hyperthermia.
 
beezil said:
when my temp increased... my energy level was so low; going to the office or the gym was the last thing on my mind. Getting a cold shower was #1.... However, based on what I understand Concilliator to say.... taking a cold shower may cause other issues?? On set of Hyperthermia.
Huh? I said nothing about a shower. There's no reason to avoid a cold shower.
 
Conciliator said:
Huh? I said nothing about a shower. There's no reason to avoid a cold shower.



I didn't say you did...

I said: from what I understood.... which was obviously misinterpreted. If my temp was high and I was loosing a lot of heat; by taking a cold shower I may increase hyperthermia.

However, the showers did bring my temp back down. :)
 
beezil said:
I didn't say you did...

I said: from what I understood.... which was obviously misinterpreted. If my temp was high and I was loosing a lot of heat; by taking a cold shower I may increase hyperthermia.

However, the showers did bring my temp back down. :)
Hyperthermia is HIGH core temperature. So if your temp is high, your losing heat, but your body is creating TOO much heat see. So taking a cold shower will be effective in lowering your temp slightly. Now by cold shower I mean cool, you don't want to jump into an ice cold shower with a high temp. This can have other complications. But a nice cool shower is absolutley fine.
 
jsupstarz said:
Hyperthermia is HIGH core temperature. So if your temp is high, your losing heat, but your body is creating TOO much heat see. So taking a cold shower will be effective in lowering your temp slightly. Now by cold shower I mean cool, you don't want to jump into an ice cold shower with a high temp. This can have other complications. But a nice cool shower is absolutley fine.


thanks JS & con.

Even though I researched DNP for a long time before using. The core body temp thing had me intrigued and confused.

I did have some good losses; However, I normally am pretty low in BF.
I decided to use DNP after my last cycle. Tren A really kept me from doing much cardio; between the chin pumps and shortness of breath.
Anyways, the lack of cardio contributed to a little exccess BF around an other wise vascular midsection.

My short dnp cycle eliminated the excess; now I just maintain.
 
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