Contamined gear???

[newaza007]

Contaminated gear???

Was using 100 mg Prop EOD recently. Had to stop after about 2 weeks. Besides the intense pain (which lasted for 3-4 days after each injection), I was getting very bad swelling in my glutes that went right down into my thighs. It was weird and was messing up my workouts.

I took a week off from the Prop and the swelling and pain went away. About 2 days ago I opened another bottle of prop that I had and injected 50 mg to see what would happen. Had no pain at all. I'm gonna do another 50 mg today. If everything goes well, I'll up it back to 100 mg EOD.

If everything goes fine with this other bottle, does that mean the other bottle of prop was contaminated or something? Can I do anything, like try to sterilize it??? Hate to throw it out.

 

[newaza007]

any feedback would be great......thanks

 

[ratmonkey]

couldn't hurt to run it through a .22 whattman.

 

[cinnabar8521]

Most likely it had a high ba content, if it was contaminated you would have other problems, like infection, fever, redness, if your still gonna shoot it mix it with some other gear or sterile oil.

 

[jamesdal7]

prop

bro, i do 100mg of prop ED and it hurts. I don't think it was contaminated, prop hurts no matter what. 50mg won't be too bad but like cinnabar8521 stated, it probably had a high BA content and BA hurts.

 

[dumblucky]

Ive read that mixing it with some sterile oil will reduce the pain

 

[jamesdal7]

Ive read that mixing it with some sterile oil will reduce the pain

dumblucky, so if I mix 1 cc of prop with 1/2 cc of sterile oil, that would reduce the pain?

 

[dumblucky]

dumblucky, so if I mix 1 cc of prop with 1/2 cc of sterile oil, that would reduce the pain?

well iasked the same thing on another baord and heres the response I got\
"You will dilute it and cut down on the pain that way but you will end up injecting more oil. More oil = pain as well your muscles/body still have to breakthe oil down. I just got off a cycle this week with 2000mg prop/wk and my ass and thighs and delts and........well you get, it all hurt, some more than others. Prop will almost always hurt. There are some on here that can take t400 or prop and it's like "butta" smooth, no problems. These are avery few people that are like that. MY 02"


I am still gonna try that though I just baked up some sterile oil today

 

[jamesdal7]

well iasked the same thing on another baord and heres the response I got\
"You will dilute it and cut down on the pain that way but you will end up injecting more oil. More oil = pain as well your muscles/body still have to breakthe oil down. I just got off a cycle this week with 2000mg prop/wk and my ass and thighs and delts and........well you get, it all hurt, some more than others. Prop will almost always hurt. There are some on here that can take t400 or prop and it's like "butta" smooth, no problems. These are avery few people that are like that. MY 02"


I am still gonna try that though I just baked up some sterile oil today

Let us know how it goes for you.

 

[cinnabar8521]

dumblucky, so if I mix 1 cc of prop with 1/2 cc of sterile oil, that would reduce the pain?

Hey James, how's it going, mixing painfull gear with sterile oil does wonders to the pain factor, I made some profina and that stuff was going in the trash cause of the pain, mixing it 50/50 with oil made it painless.

 

[jamesdal7]

Hey James, how's it going, mixing painfull gear with sterile oil does wonders to the pain factor, I made some profina and that stuff was going in the trash cause of the pain, mixing it 50/50 with oil made it painless.

Thanks CB, Im going to try that here in a few minutes. I'll let eveyone know my results.....

 

[newaza007]

couldn't hurt to run it through a .22 whattman.

What's a .22 whattman?? It there another way to try to sterilize that remaining bottle of gear?

 

[Maverick]

Well most likley it was the high concentration of BA in the first bottle of prop that was the main culprit of yor soreness. There are a few reasons why the majority of users get soreness after an injection.

1) The user is injecting a sunbstance that conatins a high concentration of BA. If this is the case you can avoid this by taking a half cc of the compound and combine it with a full cc of another like a 200mg EQ or deca and that should dilute it enough to lessen the pain upon injection.

2) Since in this case you used a propionate ester you have to understand that the propionate ester is a very difficult ester to dissolve into a solution. This is the main reason there is pain involved with injection sustanon. Some UG labs have supposedly found a way to suspend the solution with the propionate ester and not have any pain but I have yet to see this. Propionate has always been a painful ester and always will be. That has always been the mark to know you have had real prop.

3) Your body recognizes the oil as a foriegn substance in the body and has sent hystamines to destroy it. This is another reason people have gotten the infamous sust flu and sometimes get a fever after injection. It is because thier body is sensitive. Just a fact oflife and soething they have to live with.


Really the only thing you can do to avoid this is to cut the prop with another oil to lessen the pain. Also running the needle with the prop in the plunger under warm tap water for 5 seconds can help to suspend the ester in the solution further and lessen the pain. I seriously doubt it was from contamination inside the gear. If this were the case the injection site would become red and sore and in most cases you would devolp an abcess. Since you haven't had this happen you can be rest assured it was not contaminated gear. Just remember bro this is the way of the bodybuilder and there are some things we have to put up with in our pursuit of a bigger and better body. I hope this helps.


Maverick

 

[newaza007]

Well most likley it was the high concentration of BA in the first bottle of prop that was the main culprit of yor soreness. There are a few reasons why the majority of users get soreness after an injection.

1) The user is injecting a sunbstance that conatins a high concentration of BA. If this is the case you can avoid this by taking a half cc of the compound and combine it with a full cc of another like a 200mg EQ or deca and that should dilute it enough to lessen the pain upon injection.

2) Since in this case you used a propionate ester you have to understand that the propionate ester is a very difficult ester to dissolve into a solution. This is the main reason there is pain involved with injection sustanon. Some UG labs have supposedly found a way to suspend the solution with the propionate ester and not have any pain but I have yet to see this. Propionate has always been a painful ester and always will be. That has always been the mark to know you have had real prop.

3) Your body recognizes the oil as a foriegn substance in the body and has sent hystamines to destroy it. This is another reason people have gotten the infamous sust flu and sometimes get a fever after injection. It is because thier body is sensitive. Just a fact oflife and soething they have to live with.


Really the only thing you can do to avoid this is to cut the prop with another oil to lessen the pain. Also running the needle with the prop in the plunger under warm tap water for 5 seconds can help to suspend the ester in the solution further and lessen the pain. I seriously doubt it was from contamination inside the gear. If this were the case the injection site would become red and sore and in most cases you would devolp an abcess. Since you haven't had this happen you can be rest assured it was not contaminated gear. Just remember bro this is the way of the bodybuilder and there are some things we have to put up with in our pursuit of a bigger and better body. I hope this helps.


Maverick

Thanks alot bro for all of your input. Appreciate it!

 

[dumblucky]

Let us know how it goes for you.

I did it just like I said I mixed 1ccof 100mg/cc with .5 cc of strerile oil and inj my delt yesteday

smooth like butta now

 

[jamesdal7]

Thanks CB, Im going to try that here in a few minutes. I'll let eveyone know my results.....

OK, I did this for a few days and the sting was still there, it still bothered me. BUT!!!! what I do now is take 2 shots of prop a day, I take 1/2 cc of prop on my left glute and 1/2 cc of prop on my right glute. next day i take 1/2 cc of prop on my left quad and 1/2 cc of prop on my right quad. i get no pain, just a little sore but nothing compared to before. I can walk normal, sit down normal and nothing hurts....