I was told it will forever. But he said they keep expanding. Maybe growing and expanding are differentOh damn that’s crazy. I think they grow in childhood maybe?
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I was told it will forever. But he said they keep expanding. Maybe growing and expanding are differentOh damn that’s crazy. I think they grow in childhood maybe?
it can, one of the symptoms of acromegaly according to the doctor i went is tongue growth or enlargarment one of the two and high dose of HGH above 2iu can cause acromegaly symptomsJust Wondering. The tongue is a muscle. But few of us really think about it. I'm curious if it could it potentially get extra swoll like the rest of our muscles due to water retention and glycogen? Has anyone experienced this?
It's a matter of contention that this is something rhGH can really cause. Gigantism I believe (shoe size increase, finger growth). Acromegalic growth like this isn't something I'd conclude based on a guy biting his tongue more frequently. Your doc thinks >2IU = acromegaly? Above 2IU is not "high dose." It is barely more than replacement dosages for a 20-something male. And women have higher basal GH.it can, one of the symptoms of acromegaly according to the doctor i went is tongue growth or enlargarment one of the two and high dose of HGH above 2iu can cause acromegaly symptoms
Its controversial, but he never said i made an anedoctual conclusion based on experiences , some of guys i know on 3iu had 380 igf 1 levels that could be considered acromegalic levels but i feel to really develop the syntomps of acromegaly you gotta have 400+ of igf1 and that would be at most at 4/5 iu of GHIt's a matter of contention that this is something rhGH can really cause. Gigantism I believe (shoe size increase, finger growth). Acromegalic growth like this isn't something I'd conclude based on a guy biting his tongue more frequently. Your doc thinks >2IU = acromegaly? Above 2IU is not "high dose." It is barely more than replacement dosages for a 20-something male. And women have higher basal GH.
Acromegalic symptoms are more likely to present once you get over 7IU (5x normal endogenous levels is pretty commonplace in acromegaly, though 20x+ is certainly not rare in the condition either), but for some with the d3-GHR polymorphism (estimates as high as 50% in some populations!) it could be lower. I'd say 4/5 IU it is possible to see some acromegalic growth in these guys with chronic dosing. They'd quit way before long-lasting changes occur, though, due to the edema/soft tissue swelling, artropathy/arthralgia that'd be unbearable. Guys with absurd sensitivity to GH get severe carpal tunnel from low doses (it can be indicative of sensitivity).Its controversial, but he never said i made an anedoctual conclusion based on experiences , some of guys i know on 3iu had 380 igf 1 levels that could be considered acromegalic levels but i feel to really develop the syntomps of acromegaly you gotta have 400+ of igf1 and that would be at most at 4/5 iu of GH
It makes the rest of your body grow...except your dick. Your dick ends up looking like a tiny little baby pp because your body got so huge. Good luck to all.Serious question…. Dick size… hgh and dick size…. ?
Decisions decisions….It makes the rest of your body grow...except your dick. Your dick ends up looking like a tiny little baby pp because your body got so huge. Good luck to all.
Melatonin. 20mgs before bed. When you wake up in the middle of the night, take another 20mgs. No drugs required.He said it has gone away. I guess his girl said he was doing something weird with his jaw in his sleep and he was biting his tongue. So it was probably just swollen from that. Case closed XD
He is still running growth, going up to 3 IU.
It's got me wanting to try it. My sleep issues are so bad..I feel like for that alone it'd be worth it. Ipamorelin/MOD GRF just don't have a long enough half life to keep me asleep past 2 or 3 AM. They make me fall asleep like a baby, but staying asleep is a real challenge.
I do take melatonin and it is a great substance, but that is too much. High dose melatonin like that has been shown to reduce neurotransmitter levels, particularly dopamine. There is also some evidence that melatonin may act as a serotonin receptor-site antagonist.Melatonin. 20mgs before bed. When you wake up in the middle of the night, take another 20mgs. No drugs required.
You're right in stating generally, too much is not a good thing.I do take melatonin and it is a great substance, but that is too much. High dose melatonin like that has been shown to reduce neurotransmitter levels, particularly dopamine. There is also some evidence that melatonin may act as a serotonin receptor-site antagonist.
This explains why some people, including myself in the past, experience pretty bad depression after a few days of high dose melatonin treatment. It's just not a sustainable option for me at a dose like that. I can take 5-6 mg max before I start to have issues. I've had these sleep issues for decades and tried pretty much everything you can imagine. It runs in my family, unfortunately.
Yeah I am familiar with the benefits of high-dose melatonin around anti-aging, anti-cancer, etc. If I ever got cancer for sure I'd be willing to try it and figure out the depression stuff along the way. Melatonin is a weird substance for sure.You're right in stating generally, too much is not a good thing.
What's funny is I also partake in a few anti-aging forums where several elder members take as much as between 200 to 400 mgs A DAY! I shit you not.
I don't know.
At least our lives aren't as bad as the latest Matrix movie.
Not yet.
Just Wondering. The tongue is a muscle. But few of us really think about it. I'm curious if it could it potentially get extra swoll like the rest of our muscles due to water retention and glycogen? Has anyone experienced this?Just Wondering. The tongue is a muscle. But few of us really think about it. I'm curious if it could it potentially get extra swoll like the rest of our muscles due to water retention and glycogen? Has anyone experienced this?
I'm wondering when there is a significant growth of organs at what doses of GH, or is it still a very individual questionHeh, no, I don't think your friend's biting his tongue more frequently than usual indicates GH-induced growth. Excessive GH is associated with A) acromegaly and B) gigantism. With the latter, you might see an increase in shoe size (think longitudinal growth) or growth of the hands. Some people actually do experience gigantism at PED dosages. You're probably familiar with acromegalic growth, which would require more GH than your friend can likely afford, but would be marked by a "cave-man like" appearance, excessive hair growth, perhaps skull changes, muscular growth/"brittle" nonfunctional muscle, arthritis, etc.
>7IU daily is fairly characteristic of acromegaly. The symptomology is highly individualized (largely dependent on GH response), and the severity of arthralgia and edema/swelling would cause a person to lower dosage in all likelihood before the long-term acromegalic growth occurs.I'm wondering when there is a significant growth of organs at what doses of GH, or is it still a very individual question
Thank you, this is interesting information. And the height or weight of a person has a significant meaning. I read somewhere that women are more sensitive to HG than men, is that true?>7IU daily is fairly characteristic of acromegaly. The symptomology is highly individualized (largely dependent on GH response), and the severity of arthralgia and edema/swelling would cause a person to lower dosage in all likelihood before the long-term acromegalic growth occurs.
Yes, body mass (m^2) dictates dosage due to the endogenous pulsatile release of GH (insulin, too). Women are less sensitive to rhGH (due to estrogens increasing IGFBP-1) and tend to suffer from more severe side effects than men but a reduced GH response (serum IGF-I). They typically have 2-2.5x the natural daily GH levels as their age-matched male counterparts. See Women and rhGH: Misconceptions aboundThank you, this is interesting information. And the height or weight of a person has a significant meaning. I read somewhere that women are more sensitive to HG than men, is that true?
