Crashed E2 Question

[fike]

))) Congratulations!

Thanks, brother. We've lost 3 due to complications, but we got under the care of an excellent fertility specialist and he has taken extraordinary care of us. This one appears to be well on its way to a successful pregnancy. He discovered my wife has polycystic ovary syndrome and some type of genetic mutation where she can'r process folate, so she is on a kitchen sink approach of medications to help assist in carrying the baby to term. We actually conceived two days before she was supposed to start her actual fertility treatments. It was a big surprise. We're very happy about it.

 

[Amgiji]

The anabolic effect of estrogens on nitrogen metabolism of growing and finishing cattle and sheep - PubMed

Estrogenic compounds are effective in stimulating live weight gains and improving feed efficiency of growing and finishing ruminants. With the proper use of diethylstilbestrol or estradiol, weight gain and feed efficiency are improved approximately 15 and 12 percent, respectively. The...

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"These studies, along with the observation that an intact pituitary gland is necessary for estrogens to increase nitrogen retention in sheep, support the theory that estrogens are anabolic in ruminants because of increased secretion of growth hormone by the anterior pituitary. If follows that the increased secretion of growth hormone results in increased blood glucose which then stimulates secretion of insulin. Both growth hormone and insulin would be stimulatory to protein synthesis. This theory of the mode of action is further supported by the findings that injections of growth hormone closely resemble the effects of diethylstilbestrol on nitrogen retention and blood metabolites in sheep."

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Testosterone and Progesterone, But Not Estradiol, Stimulate Muscle Protein Synthesis in Postmenopausal Women

Context:. The effect of the female sex steroids, estradiol and progesterone, on muscle protein turnover is unclear. Therefore, it is unknown whether the ch

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"Testosterone and Progesterone, But Not Estradiol, Stimulate Muscle Protein Synthesis in Postmenopausal Women"

You can keep proving that 30 pg/ml of estradiol is in any way comparable to 30000 pg/ml (30 ng/ml) of testosterone )))

so estrogens don't increase growth but stimulate an increase in growth hormone and insulin (the things that make them grow) in sheep (not humans)

and in postmenopausal women
(something that doesn't track 1 to 1 with young men)

the summery says Testosterone and Progesterone,
BUT Not Estradiol, Stimulate Muscle Protein Synthesis in Postmenopausal Women

which seems to go against what you are saying.

what am I not understanding?

 

[-Maui-]

what am I not understanding?

I say the role of estradiol is overrated.

P.S. But you can keep proving that 30 pg/ml of estradiol is in any way comparable to 30000 pg/ml (30 ng/ml) of testosterone )))

 

[-Maui-]

Thanks, brother. We've lost 3 due to complications, but we got under the care of an excellent fertility specialist and he has taken extraordinary care of us. This one appears to be well on its way to a successful pregnancy. He discovered my wife has polycystic ovary syndrome and some type of genetic mutation where she can'r process folate, so she is on a kitchen sink approach of medications to help assist in carrying the baby to term. We actually conceived two days before she was supposed to start her actual fertility treatments. It was a big surprise. We're very happy about it.

Oh! I wish you good luck!
Best wishes for the health of your wife and baby!