Crashing gear in freezer true or false?

[dagreasyitalian]

Can someone please explain to me the whole theory on being able to test if their is actually powder or not in the oil by placing a vial in the freezer for a bit?

I have read some threads claim that they will always crash if it's good and some claim that only crap gear will crash?

Anyone's personal experiences with this would also be good to know.

Thanks.

 

[dagreasyitalian]

Also I would like to add that the Brewer claims that BA/BB Concentration is 1.5% / 20%

 

[lucabratzi]

I wouldn't use this as you're gauge. I've seen Watson at a doctors office fridge crash and I've also seen a Watson bottle in a doc fridge not crash.

 

[dagreasyitalian]

Wow that's pretty interesting. I wonder why this would be though?

 

[Docd187123]

It's a stupid and ineffective way to test gear. The idea is cold temps will make it crash but it could be any type of powder in the gear, doesn't have to be AAS. Also EQ comes in liquid meaning it would be hard to get it to crash. Test e is also hard to crash.

 

[kiwigear]

Test e ain't that hard to crash.. Live in nz where temperatures can fluctuate between hot and cold very fast and itl crash.. I've had a couple vials do It.. I just heat and its good to go

 

[Docd187123]

I live where winters get very cold. I've left test e outside without it crashing. You could have gotten test cyp instead or someone had a poor recipe brewing it.

 

[kiwigear]

Test c is possible... But gears always on point.. Joys of having a mountain in ya back yard I guess lol

 

[bornSkinny]

Winters are cold by me
I've had testC crash in the mailbox.

I know some may find it difficult to find a good source but honestly, its not really that hard

I've used several sources and never been straight up "bunked" where the item was just oil

The reason I say this is if you are holding your vial and are contemplating if its counterfeit, why are using this source?

Be patient and find a better source

Besides crashing the gear won't tell you if its the described hormone, what the potency is, and if it was made to be sterile and safe for injection.
so basically it will tell you jackshit

 

[ebkallday]

I made a thread on this a couple years ago with three or four different lab's tested. Some slightly crashed in the freezer and some did not at all. I ran all of them and bloods showed they contained hormone. Shitty way of testing for hormone.

 

[dagreasyitalian]

Winters are cold by me
I've had testC crash in the mailbox.

I know some may find it difficult to find a good source but honestly, its not really that hard

I've used several sources and never been straight up "bunked" where the item was just oil

The reason I say this is if you are holding your vial and are contemplating if its counterfeit, why are using this source?

Be patient and find a better source

Besides crashing the gear won't tell you if its the described hormone, what the potency is, and if it was made to be sterile and safe for injection.
so basically it will tell you jackshit

My current source has mixed 50/50 reviews and is a fairly new source.

I got some prop and ace from them..prop looks like typical prop and ace looks like typical ace, but as we know looks may be decieving.

You are correct though, perhaps I will try another one, but my only other source got a lot of hate here at Meso but I know a few people in real life where I could physically see that the products they were using were working.

 

[kiwigear]

I've pinned crashed gear.. Still worked alright.. Didn't need my leg amputated or anything lol

 

[bornSkinny]

You are correct though, perhaps I will try another one, but my only other source got a lot of hate here at Meso but I know a few people in real life where I could physically see that the products they were using were working.

i like meso a lot but when it comes to sources the internet is a large place

 

[Dr JIM]

Can someone please explain to me the whole theory on being able to test if their is actually powder or not in the oil by placing a vial in the freezer for a bit?

I have read some threads claim that they will always crash if it's good and some claim that only crap gear will crash?

Anyone's personal experiences with this would also be good to know.

Thanks.

Its' BULLSHIT!!!!

Try a simple test to prove it! Use water as the solvent (instead of oil) and sugar as the (solute) instead of AAS

MIX as much sugar into an aliquot of water as possible (until it's saturated). The latter will become evident bc a precipitate will form at the bottom. Now take that solution AND HEAT IT UNTIL near boiling. Continue to add more sugar until a precipitate forms.

Finally place the solution into a Refrigerator ....... the amount which precipitates will PRIMARILY DEPEND UPON THE TEMP OF COOLING DEVICE AND THE DISSOLVED SUBSTANCES CONCENTRATION!

MORE PROOF!
Change the solvent to table salt....... you will note much more will dissolve before a precipitate forms.

What does all this mean?

Many factors determine whether a precipitate forms

1) the solute composition
2) the solutes chemical structure
3) the solutes "polarity"
4) the solute concentration
5) presence of contaminants
6) the solvents diffusion coefficient
7 bla, bla, bla

CONCLUSION

It's bro science pure and simple mate

 

[Skull]

Since its winter time figure ill give this a bump back into existence seeing as how this time of year is when all the newbs start creating their oh so worried threads after receiving their cold crystallized gear in the mail wondering if my crashed gear means no hormone, bunk, underdosed, Ect......

 

[MythotiK]

Here:

I just received these today, the temp at the time I grabbed them from my box was 35 degrees...1 out of 3 crashed hard....This source is legit AF, so it's hard to tell why one would and others wouldn't...

 

[Skull]

Here:

I just received these today, the temp at the time I grabbed them from my box was 35 degrees...1 out of 3 crashed hard....This source is legit AF, so it's hard to tell why one would and others wouldn't...View attachment 81857

^^^Yep its just like lucabratzi said in his above post^^^

Those are vials of "Watson" at a "Docs Office". Doesn't get any legit'er than that!!!!!

 

[MythotiK]

All better [emoji4]

 

[Skull]

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Ain't nuthin a lil heat can't take care of. I always warm my gear wether it needs it or not. Its like a ritual to me lol. I take my gear an wrap it up ina heating pad. Tyen i take a nice hot shower to loosen an relax the muscles. By the time im out the gear is nice an warm. I draw an pin with a 1" 25g pin. The heat thins the oil out making it much easier to pin with. Taking a hot shower also loosens an softens the skin making the pinning experience alot less of a hassel.

 

[RealET]

Its' BULLSHIT!!!!

Try a simple test to prove it! Use water as the solvent (instead of oil) and sugar as the (solute) instead of AAS

MIX as much sugar into an aliquot of water as possible (until it's saturated). The latter will become evident bc a precipitate will form at the bottom. Now take that solution AND HEAT IT UNTIL near boiling. Continue to add more sugar until a precipitate forms.

Finally place the solution into a Refrigerator ....... the amount which precipitates will PRIMARILY DEPEND UPON THE TEMP OF COOLING DEVICE AND THE DISSOLVED SUBSTANCES CONCENTRATION!

MORE PROOF!
Change the solvent to table salt....... you will note much more will dissolve before a precipitate forms.

What does all this mean?

Many factors determine whether a precipitate forms

1) the solute composition
2) the solutes chemical structure
3) the solutes "polarity"
4) the solute concentration
5) presence of contaminants
6) the solvents diffusion coefficient
7 bla, bla, bla

CONCLUSION

It's bro science pure and simple mate

This is how you know Dr Jim knows his shit. He just gave you guys proof of Le Châtelier’s principle

And I thought most docs forget their chemistry lol