Critique my TRTblend

[XmadXscientist]

im planning to ma a long acting TRT blend with
Testosterone Decanoate 100mg/ml
Testosterone Undecanoate 200mg/ml

Plan is to pin 1ml every 2 weeks, or 2ml once a month. Basing this off done Nebido and Aveed research.

Any recommendations?

 

[Wunderpus]

Curious on this, as well. I have virtually no experience with these esters minus the minimal sustanon usage I had in the past.

Do you worry about the high ester weight? The amount of actual testosterone you get per MG seems disheartening to me.

 

[master.on]

im planning to ma a long acting TRT blend with
Testosterone Decanoate 100mg/ml
Testosterone Undecanoate 200mg/ml

Plan is to pin 1ml every 2 weeks, or 2ml once a month. Basing this off done Nebido and Aveed research.

Any recommendations?

Curious on this, as well. I have virtually no experience with these esters minus the minimal sustanon usage I had in the past.

Do you worry about the high ester weight? The amount of actual testosterone you get per MG seems disheartening to me.

At the end, bloodwork should determine dosage.
but many people get top of the range T levels with just 100 mg E or Cyp
so 150 mg Test-U+D combo is probably close.

 

[Wunderpus]

At the end, bloodwork should determine dosage.
but many people get top of the range T levels with just 100 mg E or Cyp
so 150 mg Test-U+D combo is probably close.

Yeah, no shit... He's asking what people have done and what their experiences have been... Not what bloodwork should look like... He's fucking smart enough to realize bloodwork will help him dial in the dosage. It seems as though his real concern is the frequency of pinning as well as the volume of each pin.

 

[XmadXscientist]

Curious on this, as well. I have virtually no experience with these esters minus the minimal sustanon usage I had in the past.

Do you worry about the high ester weight? The amount of actual testosterone you get per MG seems disheartening to me.

The ester length isn’t as big a deal as it seems. I’ve seen one guy pinning 250mg test U every 2 weeks and his test is about 700. Another was doing 500 test U once a month with the same results. I have some stuff saved on my tablet and I’ll post the links when I get back home.

At the end, bloodwork should determine dosage.
but many people get top of the range T levels with just 100 mg E or Cyp
so 150 mg Test-U+D combo is probably close.

That’s the plan was taking a shot in the dark to see if someone else had gone down this road yet. My thinking is right as the half live of the decanoate ester is reached then the undecanoate ester May be peaking. Everything I’ve found is on the undecanoate ester alone though.

 

[Wunderpus]

The ester length isn’t as big a deal as it seems. I’ve seen one guy pinning 250mg test U every 2 weeks and his test is about 700. Another was doing 500 test U once a month with the same results. I have some stuff saved on my tablet and I’ll post the links when I get back home.



That’s the plan was taking a shot in the dark to see if someone else had gone down this road yet. My thinking is right as the half live of the decanoate ester is reached then the undecanoate ester May be peaking. Everything I’ve found is on the undecanoate ester alone though.

I think you're missing what I was referring to... The WEIGHT not the length of the ester. The larger the ester, the less actual testosterone there is per MG of injected drug. Test base being the highest actual amount of test per MG, and things like test U being the lowest due to the size of the ester. The larger ester takes up more volume.....

 

[master.on]

The ester length isn’t as big a deal as it seems. I’ve seen one guy pinning 250mg test U every 2 weeks and his test is about 700. Another was doing 500 test U once a month with the same results. I have some stuff saved on my tablet and I’ll post the links when I get back home.



That’s the plan was taking a shot in the dark to see if someone else had gone down this road yet. My thinking is right as the half live of the decanoate ester is reached then the undecanoate ester May be peaking. Everything I’ve found is on the undecanoate ester alone though.

Slightly OT
but a better plan would be injecting HCG to recover your natural T.
You'll likely need an AI to control excess Estrogen. IMO tiny dose Letro (1/4 to 1/2 a Letro tab A WEEK) works better than other AIs.
Letrozole once a week normalizes serum testosterone in obesity-related male hypogonadism. - PubMed - NCBI

Again,
bloodwork will determine HCG and AI dose.
At least get Total-Testosterone and Estradiol tests.
LH/FSH ain't really needed in the first stage, as HCG will TEMPORARILY suppress LH/FSH.
Only after HCG consistently gets your natural T midrange or higher (IMO best 3/4 to top of the range), you can try to discontinue HCG and monitor natural LH/FSH (besides T and E).

 

[XmadXscientist]

I think you're missing what I was referring to... The WEIGHT not the length of the ester. The larger the ester, the less actual testosterone there is per MG of injected drug. Test base being the highest actual amount of test per MG, and things like test U being the lowest due to the size of the ester. The larger ester takes up more volume.....

I didn't miss it and meant what I said, it's not that big of a deal. I don't know exact numbers but it's something like 60mg test vs 70mg with E or CYP. It's going to release much slower but I plan to use load in phase per say to account for that then see how things level out over a few months.

 

[XmadXscientist]

Slightly OT
but a better plan would be injecting HCG to recover your natural T.
You'll likely need an AI to control excess Estrogen. IMO tiny dose Letro (1/4 to 1/2 a Letro tab A WEEK) works better than other AIs.
Letrozole once a week normalizes serum testosterone in obesity-related male hypogonadism. - PubMed - NCBI

Again,
bloodwork will determine HCG and AI dose.
At least get Total-Testosterone and Estradiol tests.
LH/FSH ain't really needed in the first stage, as HCG will TEMPORARILY suppress LH/FSH.
Only after HCG consistently gets your natural T midrange or higher (IMO best 3/4 to top of the range), you can try to discontinue HCG and monitor natural LH/FSH (besides T and E).

Not worried about natural recovery, focusing on making a blend of trt that makes things easier for people and allows for long intervals between injections.

 

[Wunderpus]

I believe @Big_paul has used test U a lot... Paul? Calling Paul!

Not worried about natural recovery, focusing on making a blend of trt that makes things easier for people and allows for long intervals between injections.

 

[Burrr]

i bought some test u and never used it, when it crashed it looked like crisco.

I believe @Big_paul has used test U a lot... Paul? Calling Paul!

 

[Big_paul]

I believe @Big_paul has used test U a lot... Paul? Calling Paul!

Yes it is great for trt. 15 day half life allows for infrequent injecting.

 

[XmadXscientist]

Yes it is great for trt. 15 day half life allows for infrequent injecting.

You have any insight on ideal concentration and solvents?

 

[Big_paul]

400mg/ml is what I would look for. You don't need much solvent. It disolves easy. It been years since I brewed any so my memory is a problem but I would be surprised if you needed more than 5% bb. I disolve Raw before adding oil, works well for me. You use only the amount of solvent needed that way.

I do remember it was 400mg/ml and had no problem with that concentration.

 

[XmadXscientist]

400mg/ml is what I would look for. You don't need much solvent. It disolves easy. It been years since I brewed any so my memory is a problem but I would be surprised if you needed more than 5% bb. I disolve Raw before adding oil, works well for me. You use only the amount of solvent needed that way.

I do remember it was 400mg/ml and had no problem with that concentration.

Thanks

 

[CrispyRockClimber]

I'm thinking about doing the same thing this winter, might not run it till next summer tho. It would be nice to see some more blood work with these longer esters before I try brewing. But I was thinking of blending Decanoate and cyp. I believe I had read that 250mgs of decanoate (or maybe it was undecylenate) would be equal to 175mgs of active compound the rest was ester weight.
So i was think of attempting to brewing it at 350 deca and 150 cyp per ml for 175 decanoate + 75mgs cyp per week. Might be a lil high/hard to hold, is this going over bored?

 

[Burrr]

I've got a big road trip planned for next spring and would rather not be riding dirty.
I think I'll find a source with some Test U in castor oil and see if I can go 2 weeks without a pin.
Driving cross country with gear sounds risky as shit. scares me more than customs

 

[XmadXscientist]

Anyone have solid evidence whether castor oil really extends the release of hormones vs MCT? I’m going to make this today or tomorrow and don’t want to mess with castor oil if there’s little benefit.