cutting cycle help

[mr_meanor]

Week 1-8 200-300 EQ week

Week 5-10 50mgs winny ED

Weeks 1-4 T3 - 1111222233334444333322221111.

Start Clomid week 11 - how much should I use on the clomid?

and can I use nolvadex instead of arimidex and when would I want to start it, during PCT or during the cycle, I have nolvadex on hand but would have to get the arimidex, but would if it made that big of a difference.

also I will do 1000iu hcg for 10 days after last shot

also regarding clen should I do weeks 1-4 with the T3 and during PCT, or both?

everyones advise is apprecated.

 

[mr_meanor]

I know somebody has some answers with all you pros around here, bump this to the top

 

[joe shmoe]

you'll be fine with the nolva. no need to get arimi if you dont want to. start nolva when signs o gyno occur...80mg on day 1, 40mg/ED for 3 more days. thats if you start feeling some gyno. otherwise, you could just take 20mg/ED.

why no test?

i hope you dont expect too much muscle growth on 200-300mg/wk of EQ alone. if its just to fight off catabolism, then you'll be OK.

clomid is 300mg on day 1. 100mg/ED on days 2-14. days 15-21 is 50mg/ED.

you could add clen, but use it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. using an ECA while off the clen.

if its oral winny, i'd bump it to 75-100mg/ED. if injectable, 50mg/ED is good.

have a nice day

 

[HHH]

Joe has gave good advice. I'll agree with him.


HHH

 

[mr_meanor]

I am not expecting muh gains, I considered throwing some prop in but honostly im big enough right now I just need to fight off catabolism.

thanks for the great advice

one last question, some say they like clen during PCT do you consider this a good idea, I have tried to find some info on it however I am unsure if it would be beneficial or not.

 

[mr_meanor]

also on the nolva since its such a low dosage cycle do you think
I would really need to take it daily considering water weight should be minimul on a cycle like this.

or should I only take it if signs of gyno occur.

and would nolva be included in PCT?

 

[mr_meanor]

bump for more info.

 

[joe shmoe]

you "shouldnt" need to take the nolva ED. but have some laying around.

have a nice day

 

[mr_meanor]

what if I went Week 2-9 100mgs test cyp once a week, would that defeat the purpouse of trying to cut up, I just want to throw some test in kinda now after thinking about it and i dont want to shoot prop EOD, I can handle little winny pinz but a big ass pinz needed for test I would prefer just to do once a week with my EQ? any thoughts on that

 

[graybass]

Just a little test

IMHO, I'd add a little test, like the others said. Even 250mg once a week of a long acting compound 1-8. Don't forget anti-est means anti-bloat. In my case a little noval or proviron during second half of cycle will keep you dry as a bone.
Keep us posted on results! Good luck, GB
Just my opinion, this works well for me.

 

[mr_meanor]

ttt
any other suggestions? and thanks to those who have already gave me their input

 

[joe shmoe]

even though this will be considered a big change in your planned cycle...but if you'll be using test, go with enanthate or cyp. shoot 2x a week, along with the EQ. this will keep blood levels most stable. so 200mg/wk of test and 200mg/wk of EQ. split into 2 doses. this will keep you from going catabolic. graybass was right what he said about anti-e's. even though you dont have any, get some arimi. this will keep off any possible bloat. although you wont have much with 200mg/wk of test.

have a nice day

 

[mr_meanor]

Final Cycle Planned

I kept the test levels low on purpose so feel free to critique anything but that because I am not raising the dose.


Weeks 1-6 200 mgs EQ week

Weeks 7-8 300 mgs EQ week

Weeks 1-8 125mg Test cyp (testex) week

Weeks 5-10 50mg inj. winny ED (except the 1 day a week I dont work out)

Weeks 1-4 T3 (start with 1 25mcg tab per day and increase one tab every 4 days until you get to 100mcg, and then back down again. 1111222233334444333322221111.

Weeks 1-2 Clen 12345677777777

Weeks 3-10 Nolvadex 10mg ED to prevent water retention (and have extra on hand incase I see any signs of gyno)

Start Clomid week 11 - 250mg on day 1, 100mg/ED days 2-7, 50mg/ED 8-14, 50mg/EOD 15-22

Weeks 12-13 Clen 12345677777777

HCG: 1000IUs For Ten days, starting one day after last injection.


DO YOU THINK the nolva will keep off possible bloat just as good as arimi?

 

[mr_meanor]

ttt

 

[joe shmoe]

whats the purpose of ramping the EQ? no need to. do 300mg/wk from start to finish.

ok, ok...no comments on test dose .

everything else looks OK.

have a nice day

 

[mr_meanor]

DO YOU THINK the nolva will keep off possible bloat just as good as arimi?

reason for the ramping, basicilly because I will only have 200mg/ml@10ml and only wanted to run it 8 weeks, I guess I could go 10 at 200 a week or 8 at 2.2 a week

 

[joe shmoe]

arimi will DEFINATELY be better for keeping off the bloat. however, EQ at that dose probably wont cause too much bloat to begin with. but get some anyway just incase you dont like the results from the nolva. .25mg/ED of arimi will be more than enough.

have a nice day

 

[mr_meanor]

arimi will DEFINATELY be better for keeping off the bloat. however, EQ at that dose probably wont cause too much bloat to begin with. but get some anyway just incase you dont like the results from the nolva. .25mg/ED of arimi will be more than enough.

have a nice day

cool thanks for all the advice