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Cutting cycle tren/test/dbol

Genghis K. said:
@flavio lopes, I get why you are going in the direction you are. Can I offer a couple of suggestions? Dbol - drop it to 30 mgs, no more than 40. At your weight that dose should be fine considering you have Tren and Test running with it. Test - cut it in half. Tren is powerful. Tren sides pick-up for most when the Test is higher than Tren. This would be important if you proceed with Tren E, because as @DonQKong pointed out the Tren side effects would linger longer with the ethanate ester vs. acatate.
The Test/Tren ratio you have is geared more for a bulking cycle vs. cutting.

At 39 and trying to PCT, I would add HCG. I see a lot of back and forth on the idea of using HCG for cycle lengths like yours. Maybe it's just me, but I would use every tool available if I was your age and trying to PCT. Train hard, eat clean and you'll be fine. Start a cycle log.
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Thanks man, I ran tren in the past sides are totally fine for me, I will try 400 tren 500 test to see how it goes

For pct, I usually pct only nolva and clomid and have no issues at all, that's my 6 or 7 cycle, so far so good, but I've been thinking about to add some HCG, let's see, maybe it's time to try

Thank you for the help

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DonQKong said:
What is your theory behind mixing tren e and a? First time on tren and you are basing 2/3 of it on enanthate. If you hit sides - and likely you will on 600 per week - the enanthate is going to take 10 days to ride off. That can be 10 pretty long days carrying sides.

I'd switch to tren ace across the board

DQ
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I'm mixing the tren because A has a quicker action and E last longer in the system, that's why I'm using A in the beginning for a faster kick and in the end because I don't need it on my system for longer than the cycle.

I'm quite used to tren, sides are not bad at all for me

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DonQKong said:
What is your theory behind mixing tren e and a? First time on tren and you are basing 2/3 of it on enanthate. If you hit sides - and likely you will on 600 per week - the enanthate is going to take 10 days to ride off. That can be 10 pretty long days carrying sides.

I'd switch to tren ace across the board

DQ
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Thank you very much for your help

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hunterbro said:
in my opinion, you're not getting the full benefit of long esters like running tren for 6 weeks. I'd lengthen the run to 12 weeks.
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I'm plan run 2 short cycles this year instead of one long like I did in the past years, I want to see what results I get from that, that's why only 8 weeks

Thanks for the help though

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Not an expert but I would drop the Dbol and replace it with a Test prop kicker instead. The long ester test won't kick in for a while and meanwhile the Tren A will be active hence the first couple of weeks you may not be feeling so great.
 
Professor Karman said:
Not an expert but I would drop the Dbol and replace it with a Test prop kicker instead. The long ester test won't kick in for a while and meanwhile the Tren A will be active hence the first couple of weeks you may not be feeling so great.
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Got it, I'm thinking about to replace the test cyp by sust, kicks much faster, just had a bad acne experience with sust

But you are totally right about the two first weeks I may don't feel 100%

Thank you for your help

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I've cut on test, tren and dbol. Initially my cycle was going to be a bulk, but I ended up cutting to drop a weight class for a powerlifting meet about halfway through the cycle. I already had everything on hand, so I just went with it. Ran the dbol at 20mg for the last six weeks along with the test and tren. Also hgh. I had my diet pretty dialed in and I made it work.

If you're planning this ahead of time I'd probably go with something other than dbol, but it can and will work if your diet is in check and you're dead set on doing it. Keep your diet on point and e2 in check.
 
flavio lopes said:
I'm plan run 2 short cycles this year instead of one long like I did in the past years, I want to see what results I get from that, that's why only 8 weeks

Thanks for the help though

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well, you said it best. short cycle using long esters. not for me but let us know how it goes
 
Perrin Aybara said:
I've cut on test, tren and dbol. Initially my cycle was going to be a bulk, but I ended up cutting to drop a weight class for a powerlifting meet about halfway through the cycle. I already had everything on hand, so I just went with it. Ran the dbol at 20mg for the last six weeks along with the test and tren. Also hgh. I had my diet pretty dialed in and I made it work.

If you're planning this ahead of time I'd probably go with something other than dbol, but it can and will work if your diet is in check and you're dead set on doing it. Keep your diet on point and e2 in check.
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Thanks for the advice, just two quick questions if I may, 1 what would you recommend instead of Dbol and 2 what is e2 ?



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flavio lopes said:
Thanks for the advice, just two quick questions if I may, 1 what would you recommend instead of Dbol and 2 what is e2 ?



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I couldn't really recommend anything from experience because dbol is the only oral I've run besides halo. Just from research I believe there are better options.

e2 is estradiol.
 
Great stack. You just need to run it longer. Tren E for at least 10 weeks. Test cyp for 12 weeks. As long as your diet is clean, low sodium, and your estrogen is controlled well you will not bloat, and this will be a great cut cycle.
 
Whoremoans said:
Great stack. You just need to run it longer. Tren E for at least 10 weeks. Test cyp for 12 weeks. As long as your diet is clean, low sodium, and your estrogen is controlled well you will not bloat, and this will be a great cut cycle.
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Ya I've tried to bulk on that cycle and it was more of a cut for me seeing how I have trouble bulking on tren
 
Whoremoans said:
Great stack. You just need to run it longer. Tren E for at least 10 weeks. Test cyp for 12 weeks. As long as your diet is clean, low sodium, and your estrogen is controlled well you will not bloat, and this will be a great cut cycle.
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Is there any way to control my e2 levels without a blood test?

What would help me with the e2 lvls?

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flavio lopes said:
Is there any way to control my e2 levels without a blood test?

What would help me with the e2 lvls?

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Blood tests cannot in any way control your e2.. Thats just how you monitor your levels. But if you're not getting bloods done just play it by ear. Start out at .5mg eod. If you start feeling like shit with achy joints reduce the dosage. If you start to bloat up, nipples start getting puffy and itchy, and getting emotional tearing up watching movies and shit, up the dosage.
 
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