Cycle 5: Test/Mast/Aandrol/Tirzepatide/Serostim Experimentation

[Spaceman Spiff]

Liver values look great for being enhanced still. Yeah not perfect but for someone who I assume is training intensely those are great values

It's the clen. Even on 50mg drol enzymes are normal lol

 

[buzzingonaas]

I’m actually on Opti, but I got some weird side, like I have super puffy eye and under eye bags, I look tired and I’m kind of tired. I dont blame Opti I start thinking that gh is no for me after all.

On opti grey tops i haven’t experienced that. Have ran up to 6iu only aides being lethargy, and some foot and hand pain

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Ok ... I'm convinced pharma has less sides... I feel like alot of water came off

 

[buzzingonaas]

Ok ... I'm convinced pharma has less sides... I feel like alot of water came off

is 5iu the highest you’ve ran of generics too? And we’re you on genetics previously or did you go from 0-5iu pharma?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

is 5iu the highest you’ve ran of generics too? And we’re you on genetics previously or did you go from 0-5iu pharma?

I think I screwed around with 7 for a month. Definitely ran as high as 10 for a short while(I was tired/sleepy AF)


I was on generics previously

 

[buzzingonaas]

I think I screwed around with 7 for a month. Definitely ran as high as 10 for a short while(I was tired/sleepy AF)


I was on generics previously

Cool. Extremely interested in this log. 6 generics made me fairly sleepy all day, want to try out 8-10 next year so this interests me

 

[biggerben69]

Yea, I have 4 of them looking at me everytime I open my fridge.

Are you aware that EMD Serono recommends that Serostim is to be shipped and stored at room temp? The temp range is on the box. You've got to convert to Farenheight but its something like 60 degrees to 80 degrees farenheight. Once reconstituted it goes in the fridge.

I like to follow what the manufacturer recommends. Are you using bacteriostatic water to mix? Some guys will say that sterile water is fine. However, EMD Serono has a 4mg 84iu kit for multi injection use. The 7 vials of sterile water in the 5mg and 6mg kits are replaced by 7 vials of bacteriostatic water. So I would chuck the sterile water and use one of the 30ml Hospira bac water you've got kicking around.

I like to follow instructions. I've gotten to know you over the last year or so and you are more daring than I am, but some instructions should be followed.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Are you aware that EMD Serono recommends that Serostim is to be shipped and stored at room temp? The temp range is on the box. You've got to convert to Farenheight but its something like 60 degrees to 80 degrees farenheight. Once reconstituted it goes in the fridge.

I like to follow what the manufacturer recommends. Are you using bacteriostatic water to mix? Some guys will say that sterile water is fine. However, EMD Serono has a 4mg 84iu kit for multi injection use. The 7 vials of sterile water in the 5mg and 6mg kits are replaced by 7 vials of bacteriostatic water. So I would chuck the sterile water and use one of the 30ml Hospira bac water you've got kicking around.

I like to follow instructions. I've gotten to know you over the last year or so and you are more daring than I am, but some instructions should be followed.

thank you.

I started storing if at room temperature a week ago when someone pointed it out to me. So hopefully I didn't damage the hgh.


Buy yes, I am using hospital hgh water for the vial.

 

[DirtyDave]

Are you aware that EMD Serono recommends that Serostim is to be shipped and stored at room temp? The temp range is on the box. You've got to convert to Farenheight but its something like 60 degrees to 80 degrees farenheight. Once reconstituted it goes in the fridge.

I like to follow what the manufacturer recommends. Are you using bacteriostatic water to mix? Some guys will say that sterile water is fine. However, EMD Serono has a 4mg 84iu kit for multi injection use. The 7 vials of sterile water in the 5mg and 6mg kits are replaced by 7 vials of bacteriostatic water. So I would chuck the sterile water and use one of the 30ml Hospira bac water you've got kicking around.

I like to follow instructions. I've gotten to know you over the last year or so and you are more daring than I am, but some instructions should be followed.

Do you know if that applies to Ansomone as well? Per Ankebio‘s website, it says to store at 2-8 Celsius away from light but I just want to be sure. Thank you.

 

[biggerben69]

Do you know if that applies to Ansomone as well? Per Ankebio‘s website, it says to store at 2-8 Celsius away from light but I just want to be sure. Thank you.

Seros store at 15-30 degree celsius/59-86 degree farenheight. I was always told that EMD Serono had the patent on the technology that allows for this. That may or may not be accurate?

Omni's are shipped to customers in a styrofoam cooler with cold packs. Shipped overnight/next day. If the Omni's are delayed and delivered a day late the customer is instructed to throw out the product and a new kit is dispatched.

 

[DirtyDave]

Seros store at 15-30 degree celsius/59-86 degree farenheight. I was always told that EMD Serono had the patent on the technology that allows for this. That may or may not be accurate?

Omni's are shipped to customers in a styrofoam cooler with cold packs. Shipped overnight/next day. If the Omni's are delayed and delivered a day late the customer is instructed to throw out the product and a new kit is dispatched.

Interesting... thanks for the info, Sir.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

this is my lowest trough of 200-220 Test U a week.

Which I think is fine. I still feel great

 

[musclesiege]

Looking forward to the log. Seems like a great approach, your base is what you know works for you and you feel good on and some experimentation with hgh and tirz on blast. I will say for me I wouldn’t add deca for the recomp. I enjoyed the joint relief I didn’t respond as well to it by eating around maintenance, I did when I ate in a 700+ surplus. I’d stick with your original dosages of mast and test. You’ll get joint relief and some bloating but won’t take full advantage at that does and at maintenance calories. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Looks like a solid concept. I have probably never looked better than when I ran Tirz, GH, DHB and low test last year. Shredded and yolked but not watery at all.

I like your high masteron addition. But personally I’m not a big proponent of anadrol or any other major water retention causing gear, myself. They all have just temporarily blown me up and I don’t think I retained anything from them long term. But I sure can gain 20 pounds of water from them in a few weeks.

Looks like a fun run though. And you do well at documenting details so it should be fun to follow your progress. Also interested in how you feel about using pharma GH instead of UG stuff. I’ve never used pharma GH alongside a good gear run. I have used Geno’s with TRT but it was only for a few months. Otherwise I have always used UG GH for cost cutting purposes.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Looks like a solid concept. I have probably never looked better than when I ran Tirz, GH, DHB and low test last year. Shredded and yolked but not watery at all.

I like your high masteron addition. But personally I’m not a big proponent of anadrol or any other major water retention causing gear, myself. They all have just temporarily blown me up and I don’t think I retained anything from them long term. But I sure can gain 20 pounds of water from them in a few weeks.

Looks like a fun run though. And you do well at documenting details so it should be fun to follow your progress.

Thanks, for some reason I don't get water from drol, not are my blood markers really affected.

Guess I'm lucky

 

[musclesiege]

Thanks, for some reason I don't get water from drol, not are my blood markers really affected.

Guess I'm lucky

I’m always so intrigued at how unique the results and response is for each individual. That’s why I love a good log. UG hgh caused carpal tunnel for me at 4iu but you handle it well. I took var at 50 and 75mg per day with 500 test and my liver values were under 40 but then took 400mg eq and 450 test and my values were 68 and my hematocrit went from 49 to 55.7 in 7 weeks.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Starting weight
212 lbs.
Height 510

PED	Dose	Duration(weeks)	Frequency
TEST U	220mg	Static TRT	Every Wed
Test U(front loaded 1k split among 2 weeks	400mg	1-12	Every Wed
Mast E	400mg	1-12	Split Mon/Friday
Anadrol	50mg	Weeks 6-12	Daily
Tirzepatide	5mg	Ongoing. Will titrate off at the end	Weekly
Serostim HGH	4iu	1-12	Daily

I went against Deca/NPP. I didn't want to deal with the mental effects. I can still deploy it NPP if I need it.

When I get off, I would probably stop test U for 3 weeks.

 

[TheDieselZ]

So is serostim magic like some people say? How’s it compare to good genetics?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

So is serostim magic like some people say? How’s it compare to good genetics?

Blast just started technically 10 days ago. just feels like a cleaner run.

I would feel that generic HGH may accomplish the same thing(as plenty of the more experienced people say), but we will see how I do on this blast.


Good genetics + work ethic rule all

 

[TheDieselZ]

I meant good generics not genetics my bad.