Cycle Advice before Log

[aufzz]

Hello Guys,

very Short introduction with basic Stats:

22 Years old
180Cm Tall
95kg semi-lean (11-12%bf)
4 Years of Workout Experience
4 Cycles Done so far

Okay now lets get to the point. I am planning on doing my first HGH Cycle on August 1st to finally break through the 100kg Barrier and start to become a big boy. I mean the weight after cutting, because my Plan now is to do a Bulk Cycle.

I do not have ANY hgh experience so far, i never tried something similar except mk-677 which was very potent on me. The following i was planning to use:

Stack:

400mg of Tren E /week
400mg of Test E /week
4iu of hgh daily (2iu 30min before noon meal and dinner)

Calories and Nutritions:

3500 kcal Total
255 Protein
410 Carbs
70 Fat

Split into 3 Meals and one Post-Workout Shake (kcal: 900, 1100, 1100, 400)

Workouts will be very short and intense, 45min-1h15min like Yates in a 6 Day Bro Split.

I am just asking for General Advice, is Tren the proper Compound for a Bulk with hgh and for my Achievements? So far i have experience with:

Mast, Deca, Bolde, Tren (orals not included).

So Few Questions i have:

- What can I Expect from this Cycle if i keep my Diet on point?
- Would you Chose other Compounds for my goals?
- Would you include Orals and if so, why?
- Is 3500 too low of an intake with hgh? (My maintenance is 3200 and 3500 is my go-to Bulk)
- What are your personal Experience with hgh?

I am very interrested in your Guyses Feedback, i hope my English is somewhat understandable And please feel Free to give some Tipps regarding my Diet aswell, because i know it could be better

 

[aufzz]

PS: I am planning on logging this Cycle with Pictures, just so you guys have something to look forward too

 

[BushLeague]

How is your appetite on Tren?
I'd say something about age, but you're 4 cycles down...so you're already on your way.

Good write up and Add some pictures.

 

[aufzz]

How is your appetite on Tren?
I'd say something about age, but you're 4 cycles down...so you're already on your way.

Good write up and Add some pictures.

first of all thank you for your reply. My Appetite on Tren is the Same without, im hoping the HGH will increase it, but from what I've read it should by alot.

Personally i already tried mk-677 and it gave me an insane appetite, but only for the first few days, after that my appetite went back to normal sadly - i hope this will be different with HGH

Pictures, workout log etc will follow when i will start to log this cycle - im just here to get a bit of information or improvement before the actual start

 

[Slowww]

Imo mk677 will give appetite increase due to the ghrelin, while hgh will not. Hgh doesn’t increase GH using the same mechanism as MK677. The effects of HGh are noticeable at 4ius, in terms of muscle fullness, water retention and recovery but not so much sleep quality with the tren. 4ius you will recover faster, feel fresher for work outs. Since it’s your first time, if you get side effects, you may want to start with a lower dose and move up an iu a week til you get to 4.

Why are you dosing before your meal btw? Especially during the first time using it blood sugar might be pretty sensitive and you may cause it to spike.

 

[Push50]

Nice intro brother. I would agree with BushLeague, I would say something about age but if you already have 4 cycles in four years under your belt then you are already on the path.
I also agree with Sloww! It’s a good idea to start a little lower and work up. My first hgh run I ran 2iu/day for 3 weeks then went to 3 for the remainder of the cycle. I wasn’t looking to bulk as much as loose fat and that worked for me. My current cycle with Meditrope from the Provider I started right out of the gate at 5iU/day and haven’t looked back. Loving it! Watch for signs of tendonitious in elbows and wrists. Increased tingling in hands and fingers. If you start noticing these then the dosage rate is to high for you and you should consider dropping back down. If you go to 3-4iu/day you should be good but as I said work up to it. I’ll follow your log brother. Good luck.

 

[aufzz]

Imo mk677 will give appetite increase due to the ghrelin, while hgh will not. Hgh doesn’t increase GH using the same mechanism as MK677. The effects of HGh are noticeable at 4ius, in terms of muscle fullness, water retention and recovery but not so much sleep quality with the tren. 4ius you will recover faster, feel fresher for work outs. Since it’s your first time, if you get side effects, you may want to start with a lower dose and move up an iu a week til you get to 4.

Why are you dosing before your meal btw? Especially during the first time using it blood sugar might be pretty sensitive and you may cause it to spike.

Hello,

Yeah it seems like i am very missinformed, i should've done more research before doing this post, but i am glad i still have more than 2 weeks before the actual Cycle Starts.

I am now thinking if i should not change the Cycle completly:

adding like 10mg of Mk-677 and changing from Tren to Deca. Whenever i tried tren, my sleep quality was like shit, woke up wet soaked in sweat etc and was hoping the HGH would make up a bit for that, but it seems like it wont.


the 10mg of Mk-677 should be enough to increase my Appetite a bit, the typical amount of 25mg is way to overkill for me, on this Dosage i will wake up crying in the night because my Body feels like its starving (I had legit Hunger Attacks at night where i ate my whole Fridge at 4am).

The Reason why i said i will take the HGH 30min Before Eating was due to Bro science, saying that it will increase Appetite. But the More I actually read about HGH, the more i see that this barely even makes sense.

So my NEW planned cycle is the following (FOR NOW):

(Per day)
10mg of Mk-677
4 iu HGH
2mg of Melanotan
1500mg of Vitamine C
5g of Creatine

(Total in week)
400mg of Test E
400mg of Deca

Also wanted to thank @Push50 for his post,i cant thank everyone enough in this Thread by giving valuable Information for free

One Question i do have now though is, how would you personally administer 4iu over the course of a Day?

 

[Slowww]

When I first started I did 2 iu first in the morning for one week, then 2 morning +1 afternoon the next week, then 2 am 2 pm. Now I just do one bolus at night, but starting slow and low helped me never deal with hgh sides for the past year I’ve run it.

Be careful with mk677 stacked with HGH cus sides onset a little harder because they share the same sides.

 

[Push50]

I run mine all in the am before my workout. The circulating half life of hgh is around 20-30 minutes while the biological half life is 9-17 hours. This is according to a report published by the DEA in September of 2019. I get great results and have never had any issues. I always inject sub q because the absorption rate is much slower than IM injections and therefore the release of the hgh into the blood stream is slower. Theoretically that would give a more constant blood level of hgh.