Cycle help

[Cmillis]

I’m 3 weeks into my first cycle in over 20 years. I’m running test enanthate 500 mg and planning 10 weeks. I’m injecting Monday and Thursday and taking 0.25 mg Arimidex the day after each shot just as precaution. I have small gyno lump from years ago doing Anadrol only cycle. Yeah I know stupid but didn’t know better. Will do standard nolvadex pct after test is done. Not quite ready for trt yet. I’m 51 years old and 230 lbs 6 feet. Body fat could be lower but my macros and diet are clean. Oatmeal with flax seeds or chia seeds for breakfast, eggs, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese, chicken, fish, rice, fresh veggies, nuts(almonds walnuts pistachios) some fruits comprise most of my other meals.

I’m working out everyday using my old program from back in day. I’m resting body parts each day(ie. chest/shoulders/tri then back/bi’s then legs). Working core and cardio as well. Years ago I only ran test dbol and anadrol but not all at same time. Never did pct back then as it wasnt as well known to run it

I’m on blood pressure meds and I just added another med as my blood pressure is higher than usual on cycle. I take fish oil, statins turmeric, cinnamon, will try carditone, good multi vitamin, magnesium and Hawthorne berry. I take l-citrulline before workout and whey protein with almond milk afterwards

question
I’ve always tolerated test good. Years ago we did pyramid cycle. I have some anavar I’d like to run. What week would you recommend starting the anavar and should I time it to end the same time as test then start pct 2 weeks after cycle ends? What is minimum dose to get benefits from anavar.

I appreciate any feedback as our bodies are not as resilient as we get older

also
I’m looking for recommendations for future cycles. I don,t need to bulk. Would rather try to lean and harden

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Oxandrolone has a very low half life so doesn’t have end timing problems... I think you could get away with 40mg ED .. some split it into 2-3 times during the day.. be sure Oxandrolone is legit, before thinking about dosage..

As far as you said, “I’m 51 and I m not ready for TRT” , that makes me laughing...

Anyway, I personally hate PCT, too much hormones fluctuation, too much loss of gainz.

People tolerate women/kids/people/jobs/life whatever that’s a fuckin pain in the ass and it seems couldn’t tolerate a 1/100000 smaller little pain in the buttocks weekly...

I m for TRT and PCT sucks for me... and with TRT I mean Trenbolone Replacement Therapy... (joking... but serious at the same time)

Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) is an estrogen antagonist and it seems to specifically target breast tissue...

So if you’re prone to gyno you should run even now, since I doubt you crashed your estrogens...

I think... they said Oh Tamox lowers IGF1 ... some people thinks the takin some Aromatase Inhibitor kills them, that Tamoxifen resets their IGF1 level..

I wanted to use tren so I had my fuckin stupid useless god damned glands removed and I don’t actually know if running Tamoxifen for ever leads to some problems for liver or something else..

If you actually don’t have gyno issues so I wouldn’t use on cycle and just during A CRUISE between the next cycle.. did I already say that I fuckin hate PCT ?

just keep this in mind... More Plates, More Dates... in all seriousness, MORE FAT, MORE ESTROGENS... (since it seems aromatase enzyme stand in fuckin fat) ... so maybe cut some good old fatty food.. good luck

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Just read at the end of you post Lean and harden...

I would go for Test, Masteron and Oxandrolone and a GOOD HGH 3iu ED upon waking before cardio... and keep estrogens in check even if Masteron and Anavar dont convert into estrogens..

and next step when you ll be leaner and harder, I would go for some Test , LEGIT Primobolan and 40mg of Winstrol ED for something like 4 weeks... Winstrol is hard on joints and on lipid profiles.. not only on liver... but, maybe you could get away with the Test Mast Oxa and HGH + aromatase inhibitor

the leanness depends on nutrition for first, kcals expenditure with training and cardio, estrogen levels, androgen levels, HGH

 

[Cmillis]

Thanks for advice

what cruise dose of test would you recommend between cycles instead of pct?

how would u dose test and masteron?

 

[Eman]

You can end it the same day as you do your last pin or continue with it a week or so beyond last pin. 40mg is a good starter dose and assess.

You'll want to wait closer to 3 weeks to start PCT.

Monitor blood pressure more closely if and when you start the var, it can raise blood pressure.

Also, if you're not ready to start TRT then DON'T.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Thanks for advice

what cruise dose of test would you recommend between cycles instead of pct?

how would u dose test and masteron?

man... it’s dangerous to trust random people on forums...

I can share with you what a trusted coach once told me... because I m a Robin Hood...

He told me to run from 150 to 250mg of test Enanth, based on my history, so I would suggest ya to run 150mg of test Enanth or Cypionate... better if splitted on two days, something like Mon and Fri.. to keep levels more stable.. 150mg would be enough

he told me to run 500iu of Human Corionic Gonadotropin EOD (every other day) during that cruise

20mg of Tamoxifen EOD

25mg of Proviron EOD

I came out of a big cycle and I weighed 93kg lean being 184cm..


Your test dosage of 500mg weekly for me is great.. you don’t need to go crazy on dosages , but make the possible and even impossible to be sure your taking LEGIT drugs..

And I suggest you to try keep everything from pharma unless you relie on a trusted UGL.. expecially for ancillaries... so, don’t be a cheap fuck like lot of people.. spend time and money on legit stuff..

For the Masteron , I think you can try with 200mg of Masteron (if legit , again) per week... start with that dosage... focus on training, pinpoint your diet... watch John Meadows YouTube videos on training.. study them and apply...,you ll find you don’t need to go crazy on dosages or following bro scientist minimum dosages... next next cycle you could bump Masteron to 300mg and would limit to 400mg at next next next cycle...

I think you could be very fine even with 200-300mg weekly of Masteron with those 500mg of Test...

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Donating blood will help ya blood pressure... and even 20mg of Cialis (Tadalafil) EOD... since it has a 36hours half life

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Idk why you would want to pct. Your old enough to just go on trt. You will have a better time recovering and keep more gains. It will also be less expensive. Thats a lot of adex for 500mgs. You have a lot of aromataze activity? Anadrol only i wouldnt think would give you gyno as its a dht derivative hormone which hardly aromatizes at all. You probably had it already and didnt notice until you did that cycle because you leaned out or dried up enough for it to become noticeable. If anything you wouldve just tanked your e2 and felt like shit. Your gonna want to keep your e2. The aromataze enzyme doesnt interact with dht so your body cant convert it e2. Can you get blood work?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Idk why you would want to pct. Your old enough to just go on trt. You will have a better time recovering and keep more gains. It will also be less expensive. Thats a lot of adex for 500mgs. You have a lot of aromataze activity? Anadrol only i wouldnt think would give you gyno as its a dht derivative hormone which hardly aromatizes at all. You probably had it already and didnt notice until you did that cycle because you leaned out or dried up enough for it to become noticeable. If anything you wouldve just tanked your e2 and felt like shit. Your gonna want to keep your e2. The aromataze enzyme doesnt interact with dht so your body cant convert it e2. Can you get blood work?

I heard from Vigorous Steve that Anadrol fucks with Estrogen receptors like an estrogen sometimes..

Blood work will tell you if your Arimidex / whatever AI dosage is good for you at that time

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

I heard from Vigorous Steve that Anadrol fucks with Estrogen receptors like an estrogen sometimes..

Blood work will tell you if your Arimidex / whatever AI dosage is good for you at that time

Shit your right! My bad! Cant edit my post now..

 

[Cmillis]

Small lumps appeared years ago after test only cycle. Dbol only cycles. Anyone remember little blue pills from Mexico. I noticed lump after anadrol cycle. I know oral only isn’t good but that was 30 years ago and was common at the time. Maybe Anadrol exposed lump that was already there. Not big lump but I don’t want it to grow

I’m only doing 0.25 arimidex e3d. Thought it would keep gyno at bay. Didn’t think that was much for 500 mg test per week. I could get bloods but was just going to run cycle and if I noticed sides go get blood work

will add Anavar after 5 weeks into cycle

yeah I could go trt route. Really haven’t decided yet. I’m more than old enough so I’ll eventually get there. If I don’t recover good after cycle and pCt. I’ll cruise and blast for life

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Small lumps appeared years ago after test only cycle. Dbol only cycles. Anyone remember little blue pills from Mexico. I noticed lump after anadrol cycle. I know oral only isn’t good but that was 30 years ago and was common at the time. Maybe Anadrol exposed lump that was already there. Not big lump but I don’t want it to grow

I’m only doing 0.25 arimidex e3d. Thought it would keep gyno at bay. Didn’t think that was much for 500 mg test per week. I could get bloods but was just going to run cycle and if I noticed sides go get blood work

will add Anavar after 5 weeks into cycle

yeah I could go trt route. Really haven’t decided yet. I’m more than old enough so I’ll eventually get there. If I don’t recover good after cycle and pCt. I’ll cruise and blast for life

It’s not Too much for 500mg of Test.. is subjective... I would keep that dosage you said and check estradiol level... you can know just with that... I took 25mg of Aromasin (something like 1mg Of Arimidex) EOD with 600mg of Test and I was fine... so, it person related... do bloodwork.. I would use 20mg of Tamoxifen ED trying avoiding gyno

 

[Cmillis]

It’s not Too much for 500mg of Test.. is subjective... I would keep that dosage you said and check estradiol level... you can know just with that... I took 25mg of Aromasin (something like 1mg Of Arimidex) EOD with 600mg of Test and I was fine... so, it person related... do bloodwork.. I would use 20mg of Tamoxifen ED trying avoiding gyno

Thanks

run the nolvadex during cycle then stop for 3 weeks before doing PCT? Will see how pct goes and if not good then I’ll TRT

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Thanks

run the nolvadex during cycle then stop for 3 weeks before doing PCT? Will see how pct goes and if not good then I’ll TRT

Man is a huge responsability for me.. i m not a ifbb pro coach...

As I said I don’t like pct... and other guys agree with me and said reasons why...

I personally would do this: start your cycle... IF YOU FIND, gyno is growin and starting to be a problem , I would run 10mg of Tamoxifen(Nolvadex) or Toremifene (Fareston, 30mg, half of its 60mg dosage) (better from pharma) ON CYCLE, EOD or ED based on estrogen levels you ll read from blood work...?and 20mg Nolvadex or 60mg of Fareston during your PCT / TRT CRUISE ... EOD or ED based on blood work as written above...

Do bloodwork PRE CYCLE and after 2-3 weeks... I would check free testosterone levels, total test level, estradiol, for first... then other stuff you re interested in health wise etc...

This is me at the end of my 2nd week of cruise with 250mg test e, 20mg Nolvadex EOD, 25mg Proviron EOD , 500iu HCG EOD...

Hope to survive well to another 4 weeks before restarting another blast...

 

[Cmillis]

Thanks

you are looking good. Body looking lean and some nice definition. Keep it up

what’s your next blast going to be?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Thanks

you are looking good. Body looking lean and some nice definition. Keep it up

what’s your next blast going to be?

Thanks... i dont know at all... I loved so much that Test Primo Tren Oxy EQ I ran... exactly 1 gram of gear per week... was so good... will keep my log updated \m/ \m/