Cycle Outlook? Test E/Deca/Dbol

[OnlyGains]

Hey kings,
Newbie ramen noodle here.
Did light begginner cycle of 350mg Test E for 16 weeks, no pct
Moved to trt 200mg Test E for 8 weeks
Simply to learn E control and how to dial myself in, dose response, and to test allergies
During cycle and after tried aromasin and nolva to get a handle on them
24 y/o

Started March 2021
5'6"
120Ib
BMI 10%

Currently Dec 2021
5'6"
135Ib
BMI 10%

Didn't want to jump on 500mgs to start, wanted to take a more progressive approach from the get go

That being said I'ts been over half year and looking to upgrade from ramen noodle status and run a real cycle now that I have dipped my toes in the waters I have a decent core and better strength, my form is incredible compared to before, mind muscle connections are real now, also I look much better since trt but I want to seriously size up after these 8 weeks.

I'm already super lean, been lean all my life, this entire past year I have worked on dialing in diet.
Going from eating like a bird to eating 4 square meals a day, 3000 calories, 120+G Protien, and God knows how many supplements

Lifting on trt has been going well 5 days per week,
Push pull legs numbers slowly climbing
Lifting on cycle is amazing 7 days per week
Push pull legs everything jumps daily lol

Have found out what works and doesn't for me in most cases, but now I am ready to use some gear at real doses. I want to crank things up and put on some decent mass.
Now heres where we get serious boys...
Money is not a problem, can get what I need but I basically have everything under the sun bought and on hand..
From the drawer of goodies I currently have this written out...

Week 1-22 500mg Test E per week (Wed/Sun)
Week 1-20 250mg Deca per week (Wed/Sun)
Week 1-5 20mg Dbol ED
Week 1-22 12.5mg Aromasin EoD (ED if needed)
Week 2-22 .25 Caber on pins (Wed/Sun)

Should I up the deca for better gains?
Do my Ai doses look decent for dbol?

Nolva and Ralox on hand if need be during cycle,
but I do want to avoid if possible because Estrogen is best for gains, SERM replacements will slow progress to an extent but stop any un wanted problems that do occur .

That's it, really just want to have some guys who know what their doing over look my run before I go ahead with it !

Any input is appreciated, thank you greatly
Don't rip me apart to bad lol
Happy holidays, WE ALL GONNA MAKE IT BRUHS!

 

[VenomYo]

more protein

 

[hurricane]

Hey kings,
Newbie ramen noodle here.
Did light begginner cycle of 350mg Test E for 16 weeks, no pct
Moved to trt 200mg Test E for 8 weeks
Simply to learn E control and how to dial myself in, dose response, and to test allergies
During cycle and after tried aromasin and nolva to get a handle on them
24 y/o

Started March 2021
5'6"
120Ib
BMI 10%

Currently Dec 2021
5'6"
135Ib
BMI 10%

Didn't want to jump on 500mgs to start, wanted to take a more progressive approach from the get go

That being said I'ts been over half year and looking to upgrade from ramen noodle status and run a real cycle now that I have dipped my toes in the waters I have a decent core and better strength, my form is incredible compared to before, mind muscle connections are real now, also I look much better since trt but I want to seriously size up after these 8 weeks.

I'm already super lean, been lean all my life, this entire past year I have worked on dialing in diet.
Going from eating like a bird to eating 4 square meals a day, 3000 calories, 120+G Protien, and God knows how many supplements

Lifting on trt has been going well 5 days per week,
Push pull legs numbers slowly climbing
Lifting on cycle is amazing 7 days per week
Push pull legs everything jumps daily lol

Have found out what works and doesn't for me in most cases, but now I am ready to use some gear at real doses. I want to crank things up and put on some decent mass.
Now heres where we get serious boys...
Money is not a problem, can get what I need but I basically have everything under the sun bought and on hand..
From the drawer of goodies I currently have this written out...

Week 1-22 500mg Test E per week (Wed/Sun)
Week 1-20 250mg Deca per week (Wed/Sun)
Week 1-5 20mg Dbol ED
Week 1-22 12.5mg Aromasin EoD (ED if needed)
Week 2-22 .25 Caber on pins (Wed/Sun)

Should I up the deca for better gains?
Do my Ai doses look decent for dbol?

Nolva and Ralox on hand if need be during cycle,
but I do want to avoid if possible because Estrogen is best for gains, SERM replacements will slow progress to an extent but stop any un wanted problems that do occur .

That's it, really just want to have some guys who know what their doing over look my run before I go ahead with it !

Any input is appreciated, thank you greatly
Don't rip me apart to bad lol
Happy holidays, WE ALL GONNA MAKE IT BRUHS!

You don't need the deca or dbol. Run the 500 of test and eat like a horse.
Absolutely no reason you need 3 compounds at your size.

 

[Juicy AF]

The Deca is at a therapeutic dose. Which is OK. You’ll get some anabolic benefits, but not a ton.

I wouldn’t fuck with Dbol at this point. You’ll have your hands full with the test/Deca watching e2 and prolactin. Don’t add another variable into the equation, just my opinion though.

If you’re looking for a kickstart that isn’t going to cause you retain more water and have increased estrogenic sides, TBol does wonders here.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

500 test and eat and train like you should.

 

[The alchemist.coach]

Dbol is good but can take you E2 to the roof quickly. So watch out for this.

Only test and deca i'ts ok.

 

[Plate Smacker]

Run 500 Test E alone.
If you insist on running Dbol, I would add it near the end. However, new people want to FEEL on cycle so they will run it in the beginning.

At least at the end, like last 6-8 weeks, you already had time to get a feel for 500mg Test E and how your body responds..
Then, after adding Dbol later, anything that develops is from the dbol.

This is my way, not something etched in stone.. Others may not agree, and that's fine.
I tell all new people to stay away from dbol unless you've ran it ALONE with your target dose of Test.
Dbol can get things out of hand fast with regards to estrogen sides.
If running dbol, mandatory Nolva of 20mg EOD, if sensitivity in nipples develops, 20mg ED Nolva.

Deca, definitely not something I recommend for you given that you've never ran Test E at 500mg. Plus with dbol in the mix, that is a hard NOPE from me.

When you do decide to run it, run it with Test E alone. There is a myth you will read.
MYTH: Deca MUST be ran twice the dose of Test, or your dick won't work.
I have ran Deca and Test E at same levels, with no erectile issues. Everything worked fine.

Just know that an issue can arise when you drop to cruise. Drop Deca 3 weeks before cruise. I do 4 weeks. I learned by dropping Test E and Deca at same time. I got Deca Dick
Deca Dick varies. I got a mild case where my dick would only get 75% erect. I immediately popped 12.5mg Aromasin, 0.2mg Prami, and pinned an extra 300mg of Test E.
Now, me and the wifey still used the 75% erect penis just fine, just had to get it in lol.
That lasted for a week.
I believe but can't prove:
The longer clearance time of Deca, and short clearance time of Test E, caused an issue of DHT to DHN ratio. Deca was still high in my system, while Test E is low.
I also don't run an AI. That is a whole host of other stuff so don't attempt that without alot of experiments, bloodwork, and time of learning your body.
Some have done Higher Deca and lower Test, and they didn't have erectile issues. That is because they controlled estrogen. I don't expect you to understand why that is. You have alot of research to do.

Story time:
I have a bro, that was running, blasting and cruising Test E only.
He wanted to jump on Tren.
It was simple because he had no baggage. He wasn't trying to run a bunch of other stuff.
He now runs 1.2g of Test E, and 400mg Tren E for his blast. Dude is a monster. All he uses is Tren and Test E.
POINT? It's easy and smart if you start by adding one thing each time.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Test only when you stop gaining I crease a little. From 135lb to let's say 200 is loooong way keep the deca and tren for future blasts.

And for God shake go grab some mass gainers and MK677 to learn how to eat. Deca is good for joints but at your level isn't needed because you don't really use heavy weights to imjure yourself.

 

[Monenergy]

You do NOT need caber on these compounds bro. Only if you were also running tren in that stack would I even suggest having it on hand

 

[grey]

As others have said... the only drugs you actually need are Chicken Propionate and Peanut Butter Enanthate.

Leave the AAS until your scale number starts with a "2".