Cycle Question (long post, sorry)

[zumr1]

I would like to do a cycle with sust and deca. I've done some searches on the board and can't find a cycle that specifically includes sust and deca.

I would also like to know what else I should run during the cycle and how much (nolvadex, arimidex) and when to start PCT and how much to use (was thinking clomid)?

From what I've found so far, the sust should be taken EOD, what about the deca?

What should my caloric intake look like while on the cycle?

A little background..
I've been lifting hard for about 5 years now and have done three test only cycles in the past (two enth and one cyp). Gained a lot from them but lost most of it, except from the last one about a year ago, I've kept about half of what I put on. I think that is because I have improved my diet! I believe I've lost most because I was not doing any PCT (naive, had no idea what I was doing and taking advise from people who had no idea) I've been on the board now for a couple of months and have learned a great deal, thanks to everyone.

I'm 30yrs. old, 5'5" 160lbs. and I don't know what my BF is, but I asked my buddy who is a Personal Trainer (not sure I trust what he says) but it's probably in the low teens. I'm pretty lean. I would like to put on some size, nothing outrageous, just some solid muscle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[vegas]

Hey bro I would post the info but easier to get it from Phreezers sticky at the top of the page. He does include info that will answer your question about a sus/deca cycle.


https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/26

 

[Tank01]

I would like to do a cycle with sust and deca. I've done some searches on the board and can't find a cycle that specifically includes sust and deca.

Try test and Deca... sust is test...

I would also like to know what else I should run during the cycle and how much (nolvadex, arimidex) and when to start PCT and how much to use (was thinking clomid)?

Depends on dose of test and deca (just use a plain ester.. dont use sust)... Run arimidex and nolvadex durring your cycle.. this also depends on how sensative you are to estrogen sides... I am very sensative so I use higher than avg doses.. which a lot of people disagree on. THe recomended standard for people who are not super sensative is like .25-.5mg EOD, or ED depending of Liquidex (arimidex) and 20-40mg nolva ed... PCT...


PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva


if you are super supressed then you can do a 10 day @ 500iu per day of HCG before starting that pct schedual i listed above.


From what I've found so far, the sust should be taken EOD, what about the deca?

What should my caloric intake look like while on the cycle?

Calloric intake should be adjusted depending on what your goals are... you want to gain weight... then give your body more callories.... specificly protien and good carbohydrates.
Bi-weekly injections if i were you... some will say once a week since its a long acting roid.. but i say bi-weekly to help keep hormone levels even more stable.

A little background..
I've been lifting hard for about 5 years now and have done three test only cycles in the past (two enth and one cyp). Gained a lot from them but lost most of it, except from the last one about a year ago, I've kept about half of what I put on. I think that is because I have improved my diet! I believe I've lost most because I was not doing any PCT (naive, had no idea what I was doing and taking advise from people who had no idea) I've been on the board now for a couple of months and have learned a great deal, thanks to everyone.

good ol pct... see why its important?

I'm 30yrs. old, 5'5" 160lbs. and I don't know what my BF is, but I asked my buddy who is a Personal Trainer (not sure I trust what he says) but it's probably in the low teens. I'm pretty lean. I would like to put on some size, nothing outrageous, just some solid muscle.

eat more, train harder, sleep more...

then consider AAS... and do a proper pct for gods sake...

 

[hakt0ne]

Not for nothin bro but you need to be able to answer alot of these questions yourself. Just because you haven't found the specific cycle you'd like to do doesn't mean you can't still research Sust and Deca seperately along with your PCT, come up with a plan, then present it here for the bros to pick apart and help you iron out. Do a little more searching and reading and put something together. Not a flame by any means but it'll help you alot more to plan it yourself than to have someone give you the answers.

I would like to do a cycle with sust and deca. I've done some searches on the board and can't find a cycle that specifically includes sust and deca.

I would also like to know what else I should run during the cycle and how much (nolvadex, arimidex) and when to start PCT and how much to use (was thinking clomid)?

From what I've found so far, the sust should be taken EOD, what about the deca?

What should my caloric intake look like while on the cycle?

A little background..
I've been lifting hard for about 5 years now and have done three test only cycles in the past (two enth and one cyp). Gained a lot from them but lost most of it, except from the last one about a year ago, I've kept about half of what I put on. I think that is because I have improved my diet! I believe I've lost most because I was not doing any PCT (naive, had no idea what I was doing and taking advise from people who had no idea) I've been on the board now for a couple of months and have learned a great deal, thanks to everyone.

I'm 30yrs. old, 5'5" 160lbs. and I don't know what my BF is, but I asked my buddy who is a Personal Trainer (not sure I trust what he says) but it's probably in the low teens. I'm pretty lean. I would like to put on some size, nothing outrageous, just some solid muscle.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Tank01]

yes and phreezers sticky is very very good advice

 

[juicedUp1111]

hgh

IF you have the cash consider hgh.

 

[zumr1]

thanks to everyone for the input.

tank01, thanks for pointing me towards phreezer's sticky. i've actually read it before and forgot that the info. was in there. i do realize that sust is test, i was just looking for specific info. about a deca/sust cycle. thanks for your opinions, they will be taken to heart and i will do a proper PCT this time. this board has educated me a lot and for obvious reasons i understand the importance of a proper PCT now.

haktone, not taken as a flame. everyone is entitled to their opinion. maybe i'll try researching a little more before i post next time.

Bigkarch, i've read a great deal of your posts. you are very knowledgeable and usually quick to help. so i'd like to know why you don't like sust? also most of the cycles i've seen listed say to start PCT a week after your last test shot would that hold true for sust even though it remains active for longer than a week?

thanks.

 

[Diablo570]

"I don't know what my BF is, but I asked my buddy who is a Personal Trainer (not sure I trust what he says) but it's probably in the low teens. I'm pretty lean."


Bro, you believe your bodyfat is in the low TEENS, and you think you pretty LEAN? Please dont kid yourself. You need to diet down naturally. While your doing that, READ READ READ and LEARN LEARN LEARN as much as you can about AAS's, specifically PCT (post cycle therapy)!

Not a flame, just trying to help you out in the long run man.

Meso is a great place to get info and opinions. Great place to start your research. Ask around about other sites that can add to your "research," since the more sites you visit and read up on, the more you will learn.

Diablo

 

[zumr1]

Bigkarch, thanks. I was planning on using Clomid for my PCT, will the same hold true with the Clomid as with the Hcg (meaning ok to start one week after the last sust shot)?

 

[Tank01]

actualy i wasnt the one who pointed you to phreezers sticky first... that was Vegas.. you owe him the thanks

good luck

later

 

[zumr1]

Tank01, you would be correct.

Thanks Vegas!

 

[zumr1]

Bigkarch, thanks again for all of the advice!