cycle recommendations to stay dry in the face

[BigDadd7]

All a larger surplus is more fat and water retention. You can only accumulate so much muscle to a point of diminished returns

If someone is dirty bulking (burgers, fries, etc) you're right.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

If someone is dirty bulking (burgers, fries, etc) you're right.

For sure. Higher fat content.

But to be fair, clean surplus for 230-240lbs is tough lol. The amount of food becomes a full time job. Easier to slam down some dirty shit.

But you’re still going to run into digestion, gut health & stomach bloating. It’s a tough balance.

 

[MentEFresh]

70-80 year olds on gear is awesome

Still running with the "But I'm gen X" cope? lmfao

 

[prher]

Something like that. Eat in a heavy surplus- clean with lots of protein. Hit a lot of your carbs an hour before workout. 3-4 liters of water. And manage your e2. Don't go off of "feelz".

is eq something you don’t use for your blasts specifically? cos with its 10 weeks to saturate u would basically have to come off as soon as it saturated for a 20 week cycle.

 

[MentEFresh]

There’s nothing that stops your face from bloating. That’s just what comes with it.

Unless you stay sub 10% bf year round, keeping fat and carbs low. But you’ll never be big. Pick your poison boss.

Litterally not true at all. Run compounds that don't bloat you and promote water retention and youll be chiseled. Being shredded is a bf% thing sure, but not having a moon face is relatively easy. Diet is a factor sure, but thats just electrolyte and water balance. Shit like dbol,deca, and slin(prob the worst for moon face) inherently pack cells with water bloating you.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Litterally not true at all. Run compounds that don't bloat you and promote water retention and youll be chiseled. Being shredded is a bf% thing sure, but not having a moon face is relatively easy. Diet is a factor sure, but thats just electrolyte and water balance. Shit like dbol,deca, and slin(prob the worst for moon face) inherently pack cells with water bloating you.

100% true. Size is size. You can’t pick where it goes. I was 125 before lifting. I’m 215-20 on maintenance with a clean diet. My face is not even close to as thin as it was, and will never be. Unless you’re on prep with diuretics and fat burners, your face is your face. It’s not practical. This isn’t for debate.

 

[trenisbest]

100% true. Size is size. You can’t pick where it goes. I was 125 before lifting. I’m 215-20 on maintenance with a clean diet. My face is not even close to as thin as it was, and will never be. Unless you’re on prep with diuretics and fat burners, your face is your face. It’s not practical. This isn’t for debate.

if use the right compounds, just anabolics no gh slin etc i think it’s possible to use aas and maintain your face


at 215 lbs you will be holding a lot more fat in mass compared to when you were 125lbs even at 10% now which is why your face would look more round. there would only really be significant soft tissue growth if you used compounds like gh and slin.

 

[MentEFresh]

100% true. Size is size. You can’t pick where it goes. I was 125 before lifting. I’m 215-20 on maintenance with a clean diet. My face is not even close to as thin as it was, and will never be. Unless you’re on prep with diuretics and fat burners, your face is your face. It’s not practical. This isn’t for debate.

Like I said, theres a difference between being shredded and not having a moonface such that theres litterally no definition to your jaw. See it a lot with bodybuilders. they'll even have abs but still have some bloated fat face.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

if use the right compounds, just anabolics no gh slin etc i think it’s possible to use aas and maintain your face
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at 215 lbs you will be holding a lot more fat in mass compared to when you were 125lbs even at 10% now which is why your face would look more round. there would only really be significant soft tissue growth if you used compounds like gh and slin.

That’s not feasible year-round. Is my point. Likely a ton of annabolics and very low body fat.

 

[trenisbest]

That’s not feasible year-round. Is my point.

i didn’t understand that from your comment. without insane discipline and drugs you are 100% right.

 

[BigDadd7]

Still running with the "But I'm gen X" cope? lmfao

I don’t cope for incels. Listening to you yap reminds me of of one of my know it all kids.

 

[BigDadd7]

is eq something you don’t use for your blasts specifically? cos with its 10 weeks to saturate u would basically have to come off as soon as it saturated for a 20 week cycle.

I think I'm going to run eq forever. 100 on blast as an ai, drop to 50 for cruise.

 

[prher]

I think I'm going to run eq forever. 100 on blast as an ai, drop to 50 for cruise.

are you using instead of an ai so you can get some anabolism from it while also having the ai effects, as opposed to just an ai?

 

[BigDadd7]

are you using instead of an ai so you can get some anabolism from it while also having the ai effects, as opposed to just an ai?

Yes. I am in this weird spot where I am a high aromatizer and also sensitive to ai. It's a curse. I'm ~15% bf.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

If guys are finding a diet hard, grab a weight gainer add 100g oats and drink 5 a day woth mill.. That is my whole diet has been for 13months 5500cals and I'm holding 240lbsi don't even touch food anymore

That’s not feasible year-round. Is my point. Likely a ton of annabolics and very low body fat.

He's also not Huge to any degree...

 

[adrenalytic]

If guys are finding a diet hard, grab a weight gainer add 100g oats and drink 5 a day woth mill.. That is my whole diet has been for 13months 5500cals and I'm holding 240lbsi don't even touch food anymore
He's also not Huge to any degree...

I might try this. Are you able to get adequate micros on that or you supplement?

 

[trenisbest]

Likely a ton of annabolics and very low body fat.

dude claims natty btw while being an ifbb pro