Cytomel + Albuterol......best way to train?

[Gibbster]

Hey Bros,

looking for opinions on the best way to train while on the aforementioned supplements. I'm not taking any anabolics so Catabolism is a bit of a concern. For that reason, I have been drinking Aminos all day long and training as heavy as possible.

Is this the best way to go? Or should a guy be training strictly to burn off fat?

I'm having a bit of a dilemma here because on one hand, you want to maintain your muslce mass, on the other hand, the quicker I get this lard off, the quicker I'll be off these drugs and putting some beef back on.

I worked my way up to 50 mcg of T3 starting today. Slowly ramped up over the week. If possible, I'd like to stay at this dose. 3 x 4mg Albuterol a day. Was warm as hell today at those doses.

Im at 200 lbs today, would like to finish up at 180. That should put me pretty close to between 10-12% bf. (assuming current lbm of course)

At 5'6, I'm a very muscular guy so in the back of my mind I always figured I could afford to lose a bit of mass and slowly put that back on later. Stubborn fat around the waist an inner thighs never wants to come off so I opted for this route. Sitting at 17-19% bf right now.

All opinions welcome. Would like input from anyone else who may have dons this without Anabolics as well.

 

[noah_k]

Anything beyond a therapeutic / replacement dose can be thought of as catabolic... but to what degree I don't know. I also don't trust something as mild as clenbuterol as an anti-catabolic since that was only ever observed in a rodent study, though people often recommend a clen/t3 combo for this reason

Stubborn fat around the waist an inner thighs never wants to come off so I opted for this route.

This will always be the case. You lose fat in a certain pattern, you gain back fat in a certain pattern. Until you hit those very lean levels you will not see much progress in the "stubborn" areas of your lower back / lower abs and there's nothing you can do to "target" one area over another. However once you do reach that point (we are talking sub 10 so it's not really a concern for most), natural dieting becomes harder; you lose the same amount of weight with the same deficit, but more comes from muscle as your body retains the stubborn areas. Yohimbine, another thermogenic, has a pretty cool mechanism where it acts on receptors in those "stubborn" areas to moblize fat more easily. You still have to do the dieting, but it will help with that stubborn problem. Lyle McDonald wrote a pretty cool book on this... http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-stubborn-fat-solution.

But at 19% -> 12% I don't think anything like T3 is necessary. Without going super lean you can diet fairly simply. I guess if nothing else comes up, give it a go and keep a close eye on your progress

 

[boston597]

Anything beyond a therapeutic / replacement dose can be thought of as catabolic... but to what degree I don't know. I also don't trust something as mild as clenbuterol as an anti-catabolic since that was only ever observed in a rodent study, though people often recommend a clen/t3 combo for this reason



This will always be the case. You lose fat in a certain pattern, you gain back fat in a certain pattern. Until you hit those very lean levels you will not see much progress in the "stubborn" areas of your lower back / lower abs and there's nothing you can do to "target" one area over another. However once you do reach that point (we are talking sub 10 so it's not really a concern for most), natural dieting becomes harder; you lose the same amount of weight with the same deficit, but more comes from muscle as your body retains the stubborn areas. Yohimbine, another thermogenic, has a pretty cool mechanism where it acts on receptors in those "stubborn" areas to moblize fat more easily. You still have to do the dieting, but it will help with that stubborn problem. Lyle McDonald wrote a pretty cool book on this... http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-stubborn-fat-solution.

But at 19% -> 12% I don't think anything like T3 is necessary. Without going super lean you can diet fairly simply. I guess if nothing else comes up, give it a go and keep a close eye on your progress

Wow I haven't seen u since astro said u fucked him for some web sight thing a couple grand ha..WELL I HOPE YOU FUCKED HIM AND HIS WIFE TO

 

[noah_k]

Haha hey again boston. As much as people dislike astro, there was never any money involved! The black market is not my thing and accepting money seems a very stupid idea. I did help with some labels though, shortly before life had a bit of a rough patch with family. Any web design never saw light. Ill PM you what I pm'd some friends here and saw all that mess. Good to see you again bub