Darkest Tren You’ve Ever Seen?

K0balt

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Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice from some of you more experienced fellas on here.

Today I brewed some Tren E and for whatever reason it came out darker than hell. I’ve made this exact same recipe (300mg, a pretty high concentration) before with great success but never got this color. I never like to heat tren and when I do I never go over 40 Celsius. I suspect it has to do with the raws I’ve been using. The powder was already a darker color and had hardened a bit. Before even adding any heat the solution was brown. Added some heat and it turned almost red.

I’m considering switching to a different raw supplier. No reason to think the guys I’m using now are intentionally screwing me, but the past couple cycles I’ve gotten bloodwork back at less than 1500ng levels while running 500mg of test a week. I’m not a master brewer but I try to be meticulous with the batches I make. I keep things sterile throughout the process, take precise measurements, record all my brews in a journal, etc. I’ve experimented with different oils, doses, solvents, wondering if I’ve been doing something wrong but the results tend to be the same.

I’ve opted for trying my hand at brewing some things at higher concentrations now to compensate for potentially underdosed product but as expected I’ll occasionally end up with PIP or knots and at that point I don’t know if one can even be sure the gear is doing it’s job.

Anyways, apologies for the drawn out post. Anyone ever had tren like this, or should I play it safe and pass on it? And by chance has anyone had good results with higher concentration stuff? Appreciate the info in advance.
 

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@Evom1 @grey
Thanks fellas, I read around here somewhere the darker color actually meant oxidation and that the compound had lost some of its potency. Do you guys have any experience with higher dosed stuff? I swear more concentrated compounds probably take longer to absorb, that might have something to do with my less than optimal blood levels.

Good to know I’m not crazy for pinning this though. I had no idea naps was known for dark ass tren, I almost wonder if they burned or darkened their shit on purpose. Some gym bros swear you can tell good tren from color alone
 
Dude it legit looked like used motor oil. You draw it in a syringe and you couldn't read the numbers on it. It was years ago though.

Your stuff looks totally fine, nothing to worry about. A lot of labs will cook it a little longer cuz so many guys have the mindset of

Bro look at this tren, it's gotta be strong as fuck! You can tell just by the color

Lol
 
Dude it legit looked like used motor oil. You draw it in a syringe and you couldn't read the numbers on it. It was years ago though.

Your stuff looks totally fine, nothing to worry about. A lot of labs will cook it a little longer cuz so many guys have the mindset of

Bro look at this tren, it's gotta be strong as fuck! You can tell just by the color

Lol
Did you guys ever pin the motor oil looking shit I’m curious.
 
@Evom1 @grey
Thanks fellas, I read around here somewhere the darker color actually meant oxidation and that the compound had lost some of its potency. Do you guys have any experience with higher dosed stuff? I swear more concentrated compounds probably take longer to absorb, that might have something to do with my less than optimal blood levels.

Good to know I’m not crazy for pinning this though. I had no idea naps was known for dark ass tren, I almost wonder if they burned or darkened their shit on purpose. Some gym bros swear you can tell good tren from color alone
The infamous Naps motor oil gear
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How so?
Please explain.

In terms of oxidation (or oxidization)...the normal effect on most things when exposed to air/oxygen is that they get stronger or more rapidly intense and coloured very quickly not weaker over short periods.

Dark tren doesn't mean weak tren and IME it actually means the exact opposite although Villains "naps" pic does actually look like motor oil so I'm not including that shit in this discussion ROFL.
 
In terms of oxidation (or oxidization)...the normal effect on most things when exposed to air/oxygen is that they get stronger or more rapidly intense and coloured very quickly not weaker over short periods.
That's an absurd generalisation.
Does rusting make steel more intense?
 
That's an absurd generalisation.
Does rusting make steel more intense?

Explain your theorem for dark tren equals weak tren?

I'm always willing to learn but life experience makes me question things I know for sure are false.

Is a banana stronger or milder in flavour, or lighter or deeper in colour, after oxidation?

Does the human body/skin stay more youthful looking when it's exposed to air/oxygen or when it's frozen in a cryo chamber?

You posted a silly example about metal/rust so I've responded accordingly.
 
There is, most likely, not a person on the planet who passed more different trenbolone samples through their hands than me. And me being a curious fella with, and this is important, an HPLC, I was able to gather some rather extensive evidence I can make my conclusions upon. That's one thing.

Simply, the darker the trenbolone the less trenbolone there is.
Now that's hard data.

Theoretical data would be something along the lines of knowing that A-ring oxidation is a degradation pathway of steroids in vitro. So if something had already taken steps in the general direction of disposal, one can assume it's not going to be more effective than the original compound.

My argument with rust was silly because your arguments are straight out of the realm of logic and I was simply trying to underline that. You don't get to pick examples that suit you when you try to make an extremely general point.
 
How so?
Please explain.

In terms of oxidation (or oxidization)...the normal effect on most things when exposed to air/oxygen is that they get stronger or more rapidly intense and coloured very quickly not weaker over short periods.

Dark tren doesn't mean weak tren and IME it actually means the exact opposite although Villains "naps" pic does actually look like motor oil so I'm not including that shit in this discussion ROFL.
No dark tren is from heat and does mean better. Type of oil makes difference too
 
Make some tren and add sesame oil, makes tren look like it should, not black, just more daunting.
I know the black tren back in the day was because of an insane process used.
Heating/toasting the powder on it's own till it melts then temps triple what's needed when adding CO and solvents.

In Aus we had ATEC tren which I still have that's exactly like the geneza pictured.
 
There so much misinformation and broscience on this thread...... Let me go fast.

Tren Ace if melted at it's right melting point which is 97C, become dark red/orange, if not it wasn't heated enough and you are injecting or under dosed Tren Ace or TrenE or not well cooked Tren Ace.

Tren Enan if melted at right melting point which is 78C, becomes yellow.

All those colors if you use MCT oil.

Even the oil determines the color.

So YES ace is dark orange not yellow, and no it's not less potent it's s blade.
 
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