Day 11, First Cycle

[tubesox]

Cycle:
Dbol Oral 25mg ED (peaktop brand) week 1-4
Test Cyp 500mg 250mg Sat & Tues (primordial labs) week 1-12

Day 11, i could tell my dbol kicked in dramaticly on day 9. I've been feeling overly aggressive the past couple days, gotta cool it. I've gained 9 pounds in 11 days which is insane, but i dont really see that much difference in size; my muscles are hard as fk'n rocks though. If there is any correlation to lower back pumps/cramps and the quality of Dbol peaktop is the shit, that is if its real. So far im pleased. The first week though i was very skeptical because i wasn't seeing much of a difference, just the increase in appetite. I've been taking in 3000-3500 quality calories. At the Moment i HIGHLY recommend this as a first cycle to anyone, no need to go crazy on your first cycle with a bunch of pharms....Im glad i took these guys advice that are on this forum, the ones that arent asshole smartass's anyways. So far so good, very happy. Oh yeah right now im 177 at 10.2% when i started i was 168 at 8.8%. 80% of my old max on the bench is now used for hypertrophy sets.

for some reason this POS wont let me post a pic....i'll get one up asap

 

[TaoPhD]

Cycle:
Dbol Oral 25mg ED (peaktop brand) week 1-4
Test Cyp 500mg 250mg Sat & Tues (primordial labs) week 1-12

Day 11, i could tell my dbol kicked in dramaticly on day 9. I've been feeling overly aggressive the past couple days, gotta cool it. I've gained 9 pounds in 11 days which is insane, but i dont really see that much difference in size; my muscles are hard as fk'n rocks though. If there is any correlation to lower back pumps/cramps and the quality of Dbol peaktop is the shit, that is if its real. So far im pleased. The first week though i was very skeptical because i wasn't seeing much of a difference, just the increase in appetite. I've been taking in 3000-3500 quality calories. At the Moment i HIGHLY recommend this as a first cycle to anyone, no need to go crazy on your first cycle with a bunch of pharms....Im glad i took these guys advice that are on this forum, the ones that arent asshole smartass's anyways. So far so good, very happy. Oh yeah right now im 177 at 10.2% when i started i was 168 at 8.8%. 80% of my old max on the bench is now used for hypertrophy sets.

for some reason this POS wont let me post a pic....i'll get one up asap

Hey bro,

What is your age and what do you have for AI and PCT?

 

[tubesox]

Im 29 and i have arimidex on hand, i havent seen any sides so far..but its there just in case. PCT im going to run Nolva and Clomid together, front loading Clomid all starting on week 14.

 

[TaoPhD]

Im 29 and i have arimidex on hand, i havent seen any sides so far..but its there just in case. PCT im going to run Nolva and Clomid together, front loading Clomid all starting on week 14.

Thank God you're not 20 years old. What are you going to run Nolva and Clomid at? I'd look at waiting until day 19-21 after your last stick to start PCT. There is a chart floating around that breaks down when to start it.

I'll PM it to you

 

[bigstretch]

Im 29 and i have arimidex on hand, i havent seen any sides so far..but its there just in case. PCT im going to run Nolva and Clomid together, front loading Clomid all starting on week 14.

Your going to want to wait 3 weeks after your last pin to start pct, in order to let the test clear your system. What are you going to dose the nolva and clomid at?

 

[tubesox]

Thank God you're not 20 years old. What are you going to run Nolva and Clomid at? I'd look at waiting until day 19-21 after your last stick to start PCT. There is a chart floating around that breaks down when to start it.

I'll PM it to you

Yeh please do, Nolva is the usual 40/40/20/20 and i read somewhere running clomid at 200mg a day for a couple weeks worked well. Testosterone Nation i believe.

 

[TaoPhD]

Yeh please do, Nolva is the usual 40/40/20/20 and i read somewhere running clomid at 200mg a day for a couple weeks worked well. Testosterone Nation i believe.

I'm about to start mine and I'm going to run clomid at 100/100/50/50. I PMed you that chart

 

[bigstretch]

Thank God you're not 20 years old. What are you going to run Nolva and Clomid at? I'd look at waiting until day 19-21 after your last stick to start PCT. There is a chart floating around that breaks down when to start it.

I'll PM it to you

I guess Tao beat me to it lol.

 

[tubesox]

I preciate it guys, thanks

 

[MythotiK]

Congrats, cycle looks good

 

[tubesox]

ok i think i got the pick up...

 

[tubesox]

Day 21, six pack slowly disappearing..which is ok, all I want is mass. Its no issue for me to cut up quickly due to my insanse metabolic rate. But let me get some feedback if you guys dont mind, I just want to make sure im not being biased...there is 6 days in between these pics. And i know im skinny so no need to talk ish as we are all different...yet in this together

 

[conquistador]

kill it, man. I suggest you look into adding hcg while on cycle, serm only pct is not reliable imo

 

[tubesox]

kill it, man. I suggest you look into adding hcg while on cycle, serm only pct is not reliable imo

what week would you recommend starting hcg

 

[conquistador]

what week would you recommend starting hcg

Right away.

I began 250IU the two days prior to my test injection, which is a wrong approach only suited for hormone replacement therapy, for reasons not worth going into. Then I switched to taking it twice weekly but on alternate days, again 250IU. After careful consideration, I think 100, 125IU every other day is better suited for a steroid cycle. I think my testicles maintained considerable testicular volume, but not entirely... Shooting twice weekly leaves too many gaps...

For my next cycles, I'll do 100-125IU every other day up to 2 to 3 weeks after cycle while the steroids clear from the blood if using long estered injectables. Only after that do I begin the SERM regime.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Yeh please do, Nolva is the usual 40/40/20/20 and i read somewhere running clomid at 200mg a day for a couple weeks worked well. Testosterone Nation i believe.

Dude do NOT run clomid at 200mg day. 100mg max. Probably don't even need that much.

Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Aromasin: 7.25 ED (for me), adjust as necessary.

I know it's basics, but it's a basic PCT that's been around for years (minus the stane) and it works. There are other, newer compounds guys are using, but, personally, I don't get many sides from either Nolva or Clomid, so I stick to that.

200mg of Clomid and I might start watching Glee with my wife

 

[conquistador]

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)

You should also read "Everything that's wrong with your PCT by Eric M. Potratz." Best article on the subject ever.

 

[WhiteLedgen]

Check out this video and you might not adding hcg at all.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faX9nv5Coj8&list=PLJ8yVvA5p8P7YJ_65OZRsBU87hCJdRvC_]rich piana on cycles - YouTube[/ame]

 

[conquistador]

Check out this video and you might not adding hcg at all.

rich piana on cycles - YouTube

Well, reading whats on the internet is called research to start out with. And yes, I read about taking HCG on cycle, have done it myself, and it works, period. So I'll rather take advice from articles done by real endocrinologists, experimented doctors on HRT and trainers than follow the advice of two juice heads on a youtube video. Ric Drasin thinks Tribulus terrestris boosts your testosterone levels, he says it in one of those videos, just giving you an idea.

So, for the guy who's running the cycle, just do it. You won't regret it. Or else you'll end up with a gap at the end of your cycle with no natural testosterone, no balls, and taking useless anti estrogens.

In fact, let me go the extra mile and try to explain why anti estrogens are useless when your balls are atrophied. The only way your body makes estradiol is via testosterone interacting with an enzyme called aromatase, atrophied balls barely produce any testosterone, ergo, you don't have estradiol suppresing you when your done with your cycle, all you have is balls that won't produce testosterone right away. That's why you have to avoid this problem of ball atrophy with HCG on cycle instead of trying to deal with it later. Now get that big mofo to tell you that in that video.

 

[WhiteLedgen]

^^^^ I hear what you say and i have been taking hcg my self from start,mid and after cycle i think them all works. Did not post the video to flame on anyone just think what Rich saying is interesting..

I never use hcg during cycle anymore after i did see this video to be honest. And for some it might cause gyno so to take hcg during cycle are not for everyone.