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BullBearPig

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Im going to run my 2nd cycle of dbol and was thinking of throwing in some anavar to see how they work together. Never done Var before. I know 2 orals in one cycle is frowned upon but Var isn't very hepatoxic and I'll be taking liver support.

My other cycle of dbol was at 30mg/day and I got good results from it and didn't experience many sides. My question is if I should take the 2 together or do the dbol first and start the var after the dbol is done.

The cycle will be 250mg test c/week 6 weeks then back down to my trt dose.
20mg dbol/day 6weeks
40 mg anavar/day 8 weeks
1mg arimidex/week
Tudca throughout the cycle

I don't feel good on high test and I don't want to do a huge blast, that's why the dosages are quite small.
 
I was just wondering how winny/dbol or var/dbol would play out. I don't see ann issue as long as toxicity is managed. I feel as though it would be a dry yet full look. I know guys have mentioned how they stack arol with var

If you do decide, please keep updates

What are your goals for stacking the two?
 
Im running these together !
Its a great combo ! Strength is going up even on a cut.
My dose is small tho i take it with meals.
With the first three meals i take 6.25 mg dbol(1/4 of a 25mg tab)
And with the forth and last meal i take 10-12,5 mg Var!
Im 2,5 weeks in and will keep it in for same time with total of 5 weeks total,
Its low mg and i have no sides!
You can mix orals if total mg is not to high!
 
GuerillaPete said:
Im running these together !
Its a great combo ! Strength is going up even on a cut.
My dose is small tho i take it with meals.
With the first three meals i take 6.25 mg dbol(1/4 of a 25mg tab)
And with the forth and last meal i take 10-12,5 mg Var!
Im 2,5 weeks in and will keep it in for same time with total of 5 weeks total,
Its low mg and i have no sides!
You can mix orals if total mg is not to high!
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Thank you for the input. I'd like to hear your thoughts when your cycle is over.
 
BullBearPig said:
Im going to run my 2nd cycle of dbol and was thinking of throwing in some anavar to see how they work together. Never done Var before. I know 2 orals in one cycle is frowned upon but Var isn't very hepatoxic and I'll be taking liver support.

My other cycle of dbol was at 30mg/day and I got good results from it and didn't experience many sides. My question is if I should take the 2 together or do the dbol first and start the var after the dbol is done.

The cycle will be 250mg test c/week 6 weeks then back down to my trt dose.
20mg dbol/day 6weeks
40 mg anavar/day 8 weeks
1mg arimidex/week
Tudca throughout the cycle

I don't feel good on high test and I don't want to do a huge blast, that's why the dosages are quite small.
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in my experience orals cant compensate for the lack of injectables. if youre only gonna run test and have your primary anabolic driver come from orals, then i think youll find the results lackluster. I would add another injectable in this order of choice; primo, masteron, npp, even boldenone could work

oh and in regards to orals it doesnt matter if you mix them or not. plenty of people run 10 different orals and throw them down like candy, liver damage is overrated, even methyl tren doesnt do shit to the liver and its supposedly the most liver toxic one out there. WHen you hear about roiders damaging their livers its because theyre doing hard drugs on the side and binge drinking WHILST running orals
 
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VenomYo said:
in my experience orals cant compensate for the lack of injectables. if youre only gonna run test and have your primary anabolic driver come from orals, then i think youll find the results lackluster. I would add another injectable in this order of choice; primo, masteron, npp, even boldenone could work

oh and in regards to orals it doesnt matter if you mix them or not. plenty of people run 10 different orals and throw them down like candy, liver damage is overrated, even methyl tren doesnt do shit to the liver and its supposedly the most liver toxic one out there. WHen you hear about roiders damaging their livers its because theyre doing hard drugs on the side and binge drinking WHILST running orals
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What about kidney damage from orals?
 
I just think you and your bodily health would be better off running a higher dose of test and some other injectable than stacking orals. If you don't feel good on high test then you must've had something wrong. Maybe e2 wasn't managed properly. Maybe you had low quality gear.
The big question though is: why do you want this "dry, yet full look"? That look is gonna GO AWAY shortly after you go off cycle. What is your LONG TERM goal here??

Dry, full look... personaly I would go with 500 test, 350 mast, and 40mg per day anavar. Or you could try 140-175 MG MENT per week (20-25 MG per day) on top of 350 mast P. That will have you dry and fjll for sure, with the sex drive of a 17 year old kid at his first house party. Otherwise if you're dead set on orals for some reason, then consider to do dbol for a few weeks then switch to anavar, but personally I just think stacking orals is not a good thing to do. Figure out how to make test and other compounds work well for you rather than stacking more toxic orals.

Injectable will allow you to keep that temporary look for longer, because you run them for much longer. Orals can only be taken for a few weeks, so what do you get? A couple weeks of looking awesome before you have to stop and go off and look normal again? Hopefully you made good, keepable gains, but still...most guys here with experience will tell you that it IS NOT WORTH IT.

You are still new to cycling. You should avoid doing damage to your body as much as possible. Are you trying to compete someday as a BBer or a PLer? Do you just want to look huge? What is your long term goal?
 
VenomYo said:
in my experience orals cant compensate for the lack of injectables. if youre only gonna run test and have your primary anabolic driver come from orals, then i think youll find the results lackluster. I would add another injectable in this order of choice; primo, masteron, npp, even boldenone could work

oh and in regards to orals it doesnt matter if you mix them or not. plenty of people run 10 different orals and throw them down like candy, liver damage is overrated, even methyl tren doesnt do shit to the liver and its supposedly the most liver toxic one out there. WHen you hear about roiders damaging their livers its because theyre doing hard drugs on the side and binge drinking WHILST running orals
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I’ve literally seen my liver enzymes on orals in the 200s+ and others 500-700+ this is fucking retarded to say.

elevated enzymes = damage happening. Liver repairs itself but saying orals aren’t liver toxic is brain dead.
 
VenomYo said:
in my experience orals cant compensate for the lack of injectables. if youre only gonna run test and have your primary anabolic driver come from orals, then i think youll find the results lackluster. I would add another injectable in this order of choice; primo, masteron, npp, even boldenone could work

oh and in regards to orals it doesnt matter if you mix them or not. plenty of people run 10 different orals and throw them down like candy, liver damage is overrated, even methyl tren doesnt do shit to the liver and its supposedly the most liver toxic one out there. WHen you hear about roiders damaging their livers its because theyre doing hard drugs on the side and binge drinking WHILST running orals
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Thanks for the input man, I'll look into primo. Fwiw...last time I was on a dbol cycle I had to go to the doctor for a completely unrelated issue. He told me my liver enzymes were really elevated and wanted to do more tests to find out why. I didn't want to stay in the hospital any longer so I just fessed up that I was on an oral dbol cycle and that's why my liver enzymes were high. I wasnt taking tudca at that time though.
 
MFAAS said:
I just think you and your bodily health would be better off running a higher dose of test and some other injectable than stacking orals. If you don't feel good on high test then you must've had something wrong. Maybe e2 wasn't managed properly. Maybe you had low quality gear.
The big question though is: why do you want this "dry, yet full look"? That look is gonna GO AWAY shortly after you go off cycle. What is your LONG TERM goal here??

Dry, full look... personaly I would go with 500 test, 350 mast, and 40mg per day anavar. Or you could try 140-175 MG MENT per week (20-25 MG per day) on top of 350 mast P. That will have you dry and fjll for sure, with the sex drive of a 17 year old kid at his first house party. Otherwise if you're dead set on orals for some reason, then consider to do dbol for a few weeks then switch to anavar, but personally I just think stacking orals is not a good thing to do. Figure out how to make test and other compounds work well for you rather than stacking more toxic orals.

Injectable will allow you to keep that temporary look for longer, because you run them for much longer. Orals can only be taken for a few weeks, so what do you get? A couple weeks of looking awesome before you have to stop and go off and look normal again? Hopefully you made good, keepable gains, but still...most guys here with experience will tell you that it IS NOT WORTH IT.

You are still new to cycling. You should avoid doing damage to your body as much as possible. Are you trying to compete someday as a BBer or a PLer? Do you just want to look huge? What is your long term goal?
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This is a much appreciated reply, thank you. Honestly, I have no long term goal here. I'm 46 yo, 6'2" 235lbs. Been lifting for 11 years, the first 9 completely natural. I got on trt a couple years ago, and did a cycle of test+tbol, then a cycle of test+ dbol. I understand I can't run gear forever and I don't intend to make gear a lifestyle, but I do want to experiment a little for a while. I liked the dbol and I know I can't keep the gains from it and I'm ok with that. Your advice seems very wise and I'll contemplate what you've said. Thank you
 
@BullBearPig I would go with test + primo. its the most side effect free and it gives real gains, not temporary water and glycogen crap like dbol does. problem is gonna be finding actual real primo. masteron is gonna shred your hair if you care about that, npp/tren is gonna make you limp dicked, eq boldenone might make you anxious and depressed. Primo is hands down the best, ment is a decent alternative, but youd have to find ment Enanthate ideally and you'd have to run alot of anti estrogen alongside the ment
 
VenomYo said:
@BullBearPig I would go with test + primo. its the most side effect free and it gives real gains, not temporary water and glycogen crap like dbol does. problem is gonna be finding actual real primo. masteron is gonna shred your hair if you care about that, npp/tren is gonna make you limp dicked, eq boldenone might make you anxious and depressed. Primo is hands down the best, ment is a decent alternative, but youd have to find ment Enanthate ideally and you'd have to run alot of anti estrogen alongside the ment
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Ok, I'll try primo instead of the dbol. I'll start at 400/week. I get all my stuff through Balkan pharm.
Everything has been legit so far. Should I still run the var too? I really want to try it.
 
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