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Dbol/ Tren E/ Test E cycle
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Sporkzilla
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In your opinion do you think certain people react differently to 19nor's. The deca cycle I did was smooth, the thing I loved about it the most was even at a calorie deficit I was gaining muscle and some strength, my strength didn't shoot up like I expected, but my workouts were amazing.
Sporkzilla
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@Perrin Aybara Doesn't higher test cause more problems on tren since it has the ability to convert to estrogen? That's what my assumption and thought this is what causes gyno. I've never even had a touch of it maybe im just lucky. I would love to hear more opinions on it.
Keep your e2 in check with an AI as necessary and it should be fine. I've never had any gyno symptoms either. 700 each of test and tren didn't give me any problems at all. Of course we're all different, but that was my experience with it. I felt great on that combo. I'm planning on starting tren at 100mg ED later this week with high test.
Sporkzilla
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So would it be safer for me to start low on test and gradually increase? Just to see if I have any issues.
That wouldn't really make sense with a long ester test. It would take weeks to stabilize. Makes more sense to adjust the tren ace as necessary because it'll only take days for that.
Sporkzilla
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@Perrin Aybara true lol didn't think about that. Thank you for your information. Now I do have another question, say I take the advice and not run tren this cycle what would you suggest? Obviously deca and test but anything else?
Can't go wrong with test, deca and dbol. I hear anadrol is good, but haven't tried it yet. Your diet will determine your body composition anyway.
Sporkzilla
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Right! if I did dbol would that be front or towards the back? Also do any of you front load?
Depends on your overall goals. Sounds like your caught in between wanting to be really strong and looking like a bodybuilder. You can have a nice physique, but if strength is the end state then you will have to sacrifice some aesthetic appearance.
I always run my orals at the end if I'm doing a meet. Never frontloaded before.
I want it all, lol. Not stupid lean, but like 12% bodyfat plus an elite total.
Leancuisine
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Tren made me horny enough to fuck a pile of rocks. Didn't matter if it had a hole, I would make one.
Also made me sleep like a rock. I would run tren all year round if it didn't make me breathe heavier than Paula Dean in a butter factory.
My sleep was completely unaffected by tren, too.
Leancuisine
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I want stupid lean. I want to grate cheese on my obliques and guide tourists with my roadmap of veins.
I want stupid strong. I just want visible abs and a 1700+ total.
That is doable. But 4-8% body fat now your losing strength. I want 12% as well. But building you strength foundation through good programing and training will be the key to accomplishing those goals @Sporkzilla. Ask around for programing help and you will find a plethora of help and literature to guide you.
As far as running Deca and tren together. You will hear many different experiences and opinions. You will have to learn by trial and error. We all respond differently. If you decide to give it a go. You start with tren a deca or npp. Start tren low like @Perrin Aybara laid out for you. If things are going well up the dose until you hit some sides then back down. At that point you will have found you sweet spot.
Tren is the shit bro. I can run tren up to a gram with no sides. Well the occasional night sweets; but not bad. All I have to do is throw the covers off and I am good. Now when the wife and are going at it, then I am dripping sweat every where. Just doing mobility has me sweating like a pig while on tren.
Leancuisine
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As in mobility you mean sitting in my lazy boy and merely existing? If so, then I sweat like a pig during mobility too.
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