Oh, i'm still deadlifting every week and getting the form in so to speak. I am just cruising every other week. I still get reps in on cruise day, just nothing near what i am supposed to be doing.
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I haven't hit 600... the 5/3/1 app calculates based on max reps. I hit 545 for 5 and almost got a 6th but couldn't lie to myself about locking it out. Close.
bill9799
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I'm in the over 50 crowd and was stuck on deads. I recently switched to the Waterbury method and have gone up considerably in weight. Two or three warm up sets followed by 10 sets of three reps. Sometimes I'm only good for 7-8 sets but still feel I've done strong work.
Sector51
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Alternate between dead and squat each leg session.
It just came to me that there's a 5/3/1 template that might be perfect for this. It's in Beyond 5/3/1 book and the way it's set up is 3's week comes first, then 5's, then 5/3/1, then deload and repeat. The difference is that you only do the AMRAPs on 3's and 5/3/1 week, so 5's week is kind of a mild deload itself. Essentially you're only going hard on deadlift every other week, but still performing it often enough to keep it fresh.
Really like his first set last option.
Is that the one where you do a second AMRAP set with the weight you used on your first set or just repeat the first set as the last? It's been awhile since I ran 5/3/1 and I ended up combining a few of the templates.
It's what you mentioned firstly...
Rudy over at outlaw talks about this. granted it is a croasfit place but he is the best crossfit gym and is a disciple of louie simmons. he uses the conjugate method and only has his lifters deadlift every other 12 week meso cycle for a short 4-6 week cycle. he is a big believer in using power cleans and the olympic lifts to help speed up the pull and says that when his lifters go back to deads they set prs everytime.
so you might look into doing lower cleans every other workout.
so you might look into doing lower cleans every other workout.
Damn man i just saw this. This is a great info. I struggle finding a grove or an approach to DLs. By far my weakest lift out of the 3
Some people for whatever reason just can't deadlift with high frequency. You'll either need to keep the frequency low or tweak volume and work on getting your conditioning up to the point you can deadlift with frequency. Just do whatever works. Don't force something that's not working.
Good deadlift assistance lifts could be sumo pulls, deadlift off blocks, deficit pulls, snatch grip pulls, etc
Do you think Lilliebridge's method could be something for you to incorporate? It has both heavy and amrap split into 2 weeks and you basically only pull heavy once every 2. A friend of mine who is a back to back champion in the 83 kilos currently best national Wilks too moved from his usual approach of just deadlifting in the low rep schemes to deadlifting heavy one session and sumo reps the next, he told me that sumo is a nice tool but I think after he build up enough endurance he went onto just conventional for both heavy and amrap. His explanation was that even if he could pull 20 kilo more on conventional he could still rep sumo for 12 for what he could rep conventional for 10 which in turn increased his conventional reps and yielded some 15 kilo to his current max. From what I know from him bands have contributed the most but it is up to person since he is basically the only one of the powerlifters that I know who used bands. What do you think holds you back in progress? Is it off the floor, mid section or lock out? Mike Tuscherer has a nice thread on which way works best for which situation.
I am so glad you guys turned me on to Rippetoe. That guy is right up my alley. Today i pulled 525 for a double after doing 5s last week with lighter weight and pretty much cruising. So, next week back to cruising, but so far so good. Alternating seems to be helping me get back into it. I might could have hit a triple, but shut it down to be on the safe side. Maybe next time.
Well I did my standard deload and I switched to 3/5/1 on the dead and don't amrap on the 5 day
We shall see- monday is one day. I'm two months off cycle, 25 lbs down on a cut at just under 270 and all lifts are down. Rebuilding myself fucking squat with a much wider stance to help my knees- painful, painful.
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We shall see- monday is one day. I'm two months off cycle, 25 lbs down on a cut at just under 270 and all lifts are down. Rebuilding myself fucking squat with a much wider stance to help my knees- painful, painful.
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I'll be making the switch to sumo pulls. Today will be my first go at it
I can relate Brutus. I just got done shifting things on both squat and deadlift about 2 months ago. I have tried to match my feet on both pretty damn close. I think it is going to work out. It hasn't paid off on squat yet, but on deadlift it has paid dividends. Widening up on squat left me with a dead spot and i still feel weak on the bottom. It might take me a bit longer to fill the holes on squat, but on deadlift it seems to have opened things up. Widening my stance allowed me to grab the bar a bit more upright and maybe gives me hope to try and pull 605 in maybe 3 months or so. Short term goal at least.
