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Anabolic Steroids
Deca cycle
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lukiss96
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Don't do deca, do npp instead if you're set on it. I'm not gonna go in to much details, but if you run in to problems npp is outta system kinda quick and deca well you're fucked. You can use search function and find why some (me included) say npp is a better choice.
BigTomJ
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Take more time than "a few weeks" and get bloodwork before you get started again
so i really really wanted to start using nandrolone, i bought deca because of less oil volume to inject(i use slin pins). It was a small cycle, others have swore by using trt test and 3-500 deca. Man oh man it was horrible. I had to pound that dick into oblivion to "sometimes" be able to cum. Dick would go limp. The sex drive was high but it's all useless if you're able fuck. Cialis didn't help. So i basically stopped the deca altogether and side effects wore off faily fast in the next couple or so weeks.
Now, for next year i would like to try NPP instead, and keep it atleast 1to1 to test level, maybe even higher test, we'll see. What do you recommend in terms of ratio? Test:NPP 300:300 or something like 500:300 is better?
xrayphoton13
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I tried a nandrolone base cycle with no testosterone, just npp with dbol for (methyl)estrogen function. Never had a single issue with libido or dick not working. A lot of times it's the combination of test and nandrolone that can cause those issues. If you want to run test and nandrolone I would suggest just enough testosterone (25-50mg or less) for normal function and e2 aromatization and the rest as deca or NPP (600mg+). Or find a good coach with experience
bigboy420
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Shutup
did you read my dosage? i tried more test than that and less deca than what you're suggesting and it was horrible.
xrayphoton13
Well-known Member
Yeah that's why I said less test than trt levels. Just a tiny tiny dose of test for some e2 conversion and a big dose of nandrolone. I'll have to search for it. There was a guy running this way very successfully.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
Explain.
xrayphoton13
Well-known Member
This guy was a fan of low test/high deca if u are at all interested. It just seems if you want normal dick function you need high test/low deca or low to no test/high deca. The middle ground is where trouble seems to occur
bigboy420
Member
you trt 2 toxic compounds forever? how does this make sense longterm vise?
so far all research I gathered about deca base just doesnt make sense. Feels like shizo bro.
So you permanantly live with 0 testosterone and some fake estrogen? does this not dmg the body? I need so much more explanation for deca base but so far it seems shizo.
Dunno man just sounds crazy biologically
From all information I gathered, these deca basers seem actually like a cult.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
He didn't say hrt/trt or anything like that. Deca only cycle is not unheard of and it does work for some people. Adding in dbol compensates for lack of test as it helps with e2 and dht. Crazy? These days perhaps, back then people didn't use much T or even not at all.
bigboy420
Member
Dunno man, still sounds crazy to me even if im just brothinking. Like I belive that test is truelly best.
And it doesnt matter how many people run it and feel fine. This steroid world is full of sheep. How many are doing pointless dmg to the body.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
Test is best, yes. Still I don't understand what are you talking about. This world is not normal world, everyone is different and some find those crazy ways to be the best. As long as they monitor their health and come off or trt/cruise properly it's all good. It's those who have no limits and want too much run in to problems, some people are permablasting and that's the problem
xrayphoton13
Well-known Member
I think test is best too and I only ran nandrolone/dbol without test once to try it. I did fine and gained good strength and weight. No loss of libido or sexual function. I just tell others it works in case they are interested. Other reasons why people run nandrolone without test other than to avoid deca dick is to avoid gyno and hair loss. The reason I probably won't do it again is that I lose the drive that testosterone gives me. Outside of the gym I just wanted to sit around and watch tv
bigboy420
Member
But we all humans brother!
Yea man, if you ask me males need testosterone for health.
lukiss96
Well-known Member
I'm not disagreeing at all. I love Testosterone and will always use it myself. It's the best.
after running low test/mid deca and having those sides, i would be crazy to up the deca dose even higher. I'll skip this approach altogether. Next nandrolone run will be with NPP, and Test at same dose or higher than Nandrolone. Will see how that treats me. By all accounts this seems to be the standard go-to ratio
lukiss96
Well-known Member
Standard goes out of the window when it comes to this as everyone responds differently, so you have found what works for you hopefully.
