Deca D-bol

[Bigasmatt]

On advice I am considering a stack with Deca (inj) and D-bol (orals). I want lean mass and not too much water retention. I dont think I will get the same gains as I would with Test but will this keep me lean and add some poundage to my lifts. Just want to get over this plateau I am at.

Was considering Sust and Deca inj with Winstrol orals but funds are kinda tight and I dont need water bloating.

Any good? Would I still need nolvadex and Clomids?

 

[krom]

On advice I am considering a stack with Deca (inj) and D-bol (orals). I want lean mass and not too much water retention. I dont think I will get the same gains as I would with Test but will this keep me lean and add some poundage to my lifts. Just want to get over this plateau I am at.

Was considering Sust and Deca inj with Winstrol orals but funds are kinda tight and I dont need water bloating.

Any good? Would I still need nolvadex and Clomids?

Bigasmatt, I know your short of funds and itching to start your cycle but if you do go with deca and dbol wait until you can also get some test to add. You might also change from deca to eqipoise for lean mass and less bloating

 

[Bigasmatt]

Thanks guys, I have some Sustanon 250. do you think if i add this in maybe twice per week that gains might be better with no more water retention?
Would I be better of using the sustanon INSTEAD of the Deca or WITH the deca. Will use D-bol orals whatever.
I have got a good source for anti-e's (I was thinking Nolvadex during and Clomids after cycle starting about three weeks after last deca inj)?
Not really sure though, just need some advice on best stack, least S/Effects and minimal water retention.
Cheers fellas

 

[4545]

Add in the Test at 500mg per week and you need a anti-e nolva is fine 10-20mg ED, You gotta nice cycle there..........

 

[Bigasmatt]

I am thinking;
Sustanon 500 per week (250 x 2 e/w)
Deca 200 per week
D-Bol oral 20mg per day
nolvadex e/d and clomids after cycle e/d starting three weeks after last deca inj.

Sound o.k?

I would like to build it up from about half this dose to a peak for 4-6weeks and then ease it off to about half again! Would this be a waste of time? Its just the half life of deca is so long that i think it would be nice to get used to it before it gets too high.

What d'ya think?

 

[Bigasmatt]

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any other ideas? Just want to get some experienced ideas if this is all good. I will be putting in an order tomorrow for the D-bol and anti-e's but wont start a cycle until I have afew more views.

Want to get it alright on the night,

 

[nj juice]

Deca and d-bol should not be your aas of choice if you're looking for lean mass gains w/o water retention...you should look into a cycle that consists of test prop and perhaps some eq and tren...

 

[Bigasmatt]

I know I will retain some water but What I have is Deca and Sustanon. I dont have cash for a big outlay and I want a reasonable stack. I wanted to add D-bol orals to kick start, I will also have anti-e.

Just want to know 1)if I should drop any of these and 2)If I should build them up slow or just jump straight in?

I know that I wiill get good gains from deca and sust but I thought maybe deca with d-bol might be better until the guys here suggested I add some test. Like I say, I have some sust so I can add it in. Just want a good clean stack to add on some mass without S/Effects.

What d'ya think?

 

[mesomember]

I know I will retain some water but What I have is Deca and Sustanon. I dont have cash for a big outlay and I want a reasonable stack. I wanted to add D-bol orals to kick start, I will also have anti-e.

Just want to know 1)if I should drop any of these and 2)If I should build them up slow or just jump straight in?

I know that I wiill get good gains from deca and sust but I thought maybe deca with d-bol might be better until the guys here suggested I add some test. Like I say, I have some sust so I can add it in. Just want a good clean stack to add on some mass without S/Effects.

What d'ya think?

Definetly Use the d-bol to kick start at 40mg ed for 4 weeks, run the deca at 400 mg weekly and the test at 500mg weekly. Jump right in with these doses, if its your 1st cycle then taper up the d-bol form 25 mg a day to 40mg to see if it makes you retain too much water. Just my opinion, your going to retain some water, but nothing drastic.

 

[krom]

I dont mean to be rude bro, but what you have does not mix with what you want out of the cycle. If you want lean mass, deca and dbol is a bulker, not for lean mass. You do have the lower doses, but with 200 mg of deca and 25 mg of dbol is not going to give you what you want. I think you will not be satisfied with that. If funds is an issue, wait and get more funds for the cycle you want.

I have seen with deca and dbol, that nolva wont stop too much water retention. arim is better for that. That being said, try 500 mg of test, 300mg of deca and 25 mg of dbol and see what it does for you. Watch your sodium intake and drink lots of water. You will grow, but you will also see water retention. If that is ok, do it.

Listen to the wise man bro he'll steer you in the right direction

 

[Tomahawk]

Bro you will get some bloat no doubt from d-bol and deca lean mass i would go with TEST, EQ,TREN. just my $0.02.

 

[Bigasmatt]

Thanks guys,
I think I'll take that good advice and go with this
Sust 250x2 e/w
Deca 300 e/w
D-Bol 25mg e/d

Nolvadex on standby and clomids after cycle.

As suggested.

Appreciate everyones feedback!!!

Ill take some photos and post them up before and after, unless the water makes me look like the stay-puft marshmallow man, In which case Ill post a picture of Arnie with his face obscured and say its me!!!!

The order goes in today and Ill start next week!!
Bigasmatt

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Sounds like a good choice bro, and like you said, alot of good choices were given..
That is going to be my next cycle, just the same. At first I was worried that 300mg of deca would'nt be enough per week, because the bread-n-butter calls for 400, but lately I see alot of bros saying thats enough to grow on. And with my UG lab deca being 300mg anyway, its only natural....

I've never used deca, but I look forward to my first bulk cycle, only done leaners in the past.

Although this is only my 4th one, I've been reading everyday for YEARS on all the good boards, got my first cycle from the Karachi Kid and Sust to you.
Those names are OLD from Triedia.

Keep us posted and good luck!

Jerry

Shut up & lift!

 

[monster.]

Good to see you throwing some test in there bud.. Nice cycle, you'll enjoy it..

take care

 

[finafreak]

Right on the money

Hey bro, Deca and Dbol is notorius for water retention. You will get good strength gains but you will get water retention. If you can wait or have the money try tren/prop or just test/Eq with some anti e's.

You beat me to it,.Listen to this bro here!



finafreak

 

[Bigasmatt]

Alright, Its time to get nasty.
Just hanging on for santa and then we're off to the gym. Weighed in today at 105kg (6'2") and 14%bf.

Cant wait to see where I am at at the end.

Thanks for the brains guys!!

Jerry garcia all the best with same bro, keep us posted!!

Bigger and Bigger Bigasmatt!!