Deca for Joint Issues

[Gaynz39]

My current job is pretty intense, constantly moving, twisting, my Knees, Elbows, Shoulders are taking a beating, I’m guessing joints is the problem. Can I run Deca and get away with it if I am on TRT and have Bloodwork every 10 weeks? Or any other ideas?

 

[B Ware]

My current job is pretty intense, constantly moving, twisting, my Knees, Elbows, Shoulders are taking a beating, I’m guessing joints is the problem. Can I run Deca and get away with it if I am on TRT and have Bloodwork every 10 weeks? Or any other ideas?

No, your doc will be able to tell when he pulls bloods.

Some docs will prescribe it but good luck with that.

 

[GDL]

Deca doesn’t really fix anything anyways, just masks it by loading the joint up with fluid. Then when you come off you feel twice as bad at first as your body rebounds.
I know pentosan sulphate increases the fluids in your joints and cleans out the capillaries in the bone joint ends so you get improved blood flow in the joint.
It actually is supposed to work better than deca.
Of course if you don’t take supplements to support this nothing will happen. So glucosamine, beef broth and such on a regular basis. Taking collagen is essential as well.
I do heavy labour as well. I’ve taken glucosamine, msm, chrodtrin for 20 years daily. I’ve just started to take collagen daily. I have no joint issues.
Biggest thing is being hydrated, make sure you drink a gallon of water a day.
As an example of the effectiveness of pentosan, my 14 year old cat used to be lame. Laid around on the same bench never moving, I started to give her weight adjusted weekly injections and now she has a limp, but is moving and playing again.
It will not show up on a blood test.
There are a ton of studies on google, it is a harmless product, but not patentable so no drug company will bother getting it approved for humans for joint issues. It original use was for painful bladder syndrome.
Btw, I had the bottle of pentosan for my wife, her knee made a bad grinding noise as she climbed the stairs, pentisan for 3 months and collagen and as long as she keeps using collagen it makes no noise. She originally took the liquid collagen for cosmetic reasons, to reduce wrinkles.
Good luck.

 

[GDL]

Oh I forgot to mention. I have learned that a lot of what we think is joint issues, is actually misfiring muscles creating bad movement patterns. I wish I had done this years ago, but monthly deep tissue massage would likely clear up most of your problems. Tight muscles load joints by clamping down on them.
I have lumps in my traps and shoulder blades from years of hard work, I am now doing massage but fuck I wish I spent the money sooner.
A buddy of mine, likely the only one in the group has done this since high school football and has no issues.
The rest of us have something.

 

[movingiron88]

@Gaynz39 If your on trt I do not see how the doctor will be able to tell you are taking 200mg deca. Also take this for what it's worth but I had ongoing shoulder pain and ran 200mg of deca a week for some time and it has let my shoulders recover. It's been over a year since I used deca and my shoulders continue to be better. Low dose in my opinion is worth a try.

 

[Gaynz39]

I ran Collagen for a bit, and was basically told it was worthless, and a waste. I think I’m going to run a low dose 16 week cycle of Deca and see how things go. I have always been very active. This Job has taken a toll on my Knees for Damn sure.

 

[Gaynz39]

Any suggestions on top Fish Oil Brands? I’m gonna start there till I can get an order in with someone. Dose suggestions? 200-400?

 

[Sworder]

No, your doc will be able to tell when he pulls bloods.

You think his doctor tests for nandrolone?

 

[B Ware]

You think his doctor tests for nandrolone?

No... but taking nandrolone will help raise hematocrit, hemoglobin, etc and also can give a false reading on your blood work and show high levels of test. Basically, I wouldn't do it if you're regulated by a doc because there is a likely chance that your blood work will throw up a bunch of red flags and could result in something being put in your file that you'd rather not have in there. Having something like that in your file will follow you forever and will prevent you from things like a good affordable life insurance policy. It's just not worth the risk.

Like I mentioned in the post you quoted, you can find a doc that will prescribe deca along with your trt so I would just go that route and play it safe.

 

[Sworder]

No... but taking nandrolone will help raise hematocrit, hemoglobin, etc and also can give a false reading on your blood work and show high levels of test.

No, no, and NO...

Basically, I wouldn't do it if you're regulated by a doc because there is a likely chance that your blood work will throw up a bunch of red flags

No there is not, you are saying this because you don't fully understand bloodwork and hormones.

and could result in something being put in your file that you'd rather not have in there. Having something like that in your file will follow you forever and will prevent you from things like a good affordable life insurance policy. It's just not worth the risk.

There is no risk, you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[GDL]

I ran Collagen for a bit, and was basically told it was worthless, and a waste. I think I’m going to run a low dose 16 week cycle of Deca and see how things go. I have always been very active. This Job has taken a toll on my Knees for Damn sure.

See what I hear is, you ran it for a few months inconsistently, someone said it was shit and you stopped.
I bet that person ran it fir a couple months Inconsistently as well and came up with those results.

Even while running deca, you joints will need the nutrition to feed the healing. Take you glucosamine, msm, chordtin and collagen.

If not it’s like taking test and not eating protein. See the issue with most of us is we eat too much food with no connective tissue in it. So chicken breasts, xlean ground beef, lean fish, then after years we wonder why our joints are wore out. They were not given the building blocks to repair themselves.

my joints are great, I’m 48 and have been pounding my body with heavy Labor since I was 16, and I’m not a large man. Have had both hernias repaired as well. I still remember at a body weight of 140 I could easily carry around 300lb carcasses. Up and down ladders with 80-90 pound boxes daily. So I must be doing something right?

 

[B Ware]

No, no, and NO...

No there is not, you are saying this because you don't fully understand bloodwork and hormones.


There is no risk, you don't know what you are talking about.

Ugh.. I knew better to answer to Meso's troll. You're an idiot. Still mad I called you out for being a pedophile? Look it needed to be said, every post you made for weeks was about kids. You even made a thread about children's behaviors but you admitted you don't even have kids . Its fucking weird man. Now fuck off

 

[GDL]

Any suggestions on top Fish Oil Brands? I’m gonna start there till I can get an order in with someone. Dose suggestions? 200-400?

Costco brand of omega 3’s is fine. Take 2 grans a day. With help with bp issues as well as help to increase your hdl slightly.

 

[Gaynz39]

Can Deca fuck bloodwork up or not? For fuck Sakes. Someone up there said Deca is basically Harmless, so how can it fuck blood levels up? Post up an online place that will prescribe them both together.

 

[Sworder]

Can Deca fuck bloodwork up or not? For fuck Sakes. Someone up there said Deca is basically Harmless, so how can it fuck blood levels up? Post up an online place that will prescribe them both together.

No it can't B Ware doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

[johntt44]

It doesnt show up as test, so it shouldnt.

 

[B Ware]

Can Deca fuck bloodwork up or not? For fuck Sakes. Someone up there said Deca is basically Harmless, so how can it fuck blood levels up? Post up an online place that will prescribe them both together.

Read the first post in this thread and decide for yourself. It clearly says that deca and tren can scew blood work if done through private MD. What’s to say your docs lab doesn’t test the same?

The Basics of Ordering Bloodwork

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Not going show up unless they specifically test for nandrolone...also deca just increases sinovian fluid in your joints. It doesnt have healing properties

 

[GDL]

I know for a fact it will mess with estrogen and prolactin levels. If you are getting tested for those it will show up as a red flag. I wouldn’t chance fucking up a script.

 

[movingiron88]

I have am on doctor prescribed and monitored trt. Low dose deca never once threw off my bloodwork.