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[biggerben69]

But you don’t notice any effect when used PWO? Or did I misunderstand your earlier post?

I do not. The TNE I'm running is 50mg/ml from a different source. Its hplc tested. I've used a lot of TNE in oil from different labs. I don't "Feel" it. Now, I see whats being posted about Test Suspension(water). I guess it could be placeebo but 100mg of suspension pwo gave me what I thought was a boost. Felt stronger.

The mind is a powerful thing. Halotestin is a different animal. If you haven't given it a go you should. I believe Pfizer still makes halo. Green things that are wonderful. UGL has been very good as well.

 

[Ryan Veneficus]

LMAO. Like they're playing a sick joke on you I swear. My supplement order I just posted about is doing something similar after finally moving. Makes no damn sense.

My wife works for the post office and she's told me horror stories of how bad it is. There's lots of people that are hired in there because of quotas that don't want to work and once in it's almost impossible to fire them because of their union. Mail will sit on top of shelves and be forgotten about for months, or fall down between the seats of a mail truck and sit there until someone cleans it and finds it. Also people will literally call in sick for several weeks straight and not get in trouble. Right now her post office has 8 or 9 people called off and the routes they work get done a little at a time by everyone else, like her, that actually works, has to work 12 hour plus days to make up for the slackers.
And when the mail bounces around, she says that's from someone just grabbing whatever parcels they see and throwing them in the wrong truck, so it goes to the wrong place and isn't caught until someone scans it again.
So it's a bunch of government workers that can't be fired and don't like working that just randomly throw shit into the wrong transport trucks that makes our orders bounce around from place to place.

 

[Vikingo]

My wife works for the post office and she's told me horror stories of how bad it is. There's lots of people that are hired in there because of quotas that don't want to work and once in it's almost impossible to fire them because of their union. Mail will sit on top of shelves and be forgotten about for months, or fall down between the seats of a mail truck and sit there until someone cleans it and finds it. Also people will literally call in sick for several weeks straight and not get in trouble. Right now her post office has 8 or 9 people called off and the routes they work get done a little at a time by everyone else, like her, that actually works, has to work 12 hour plus days to make up for the slackers.
And when the mail bounces around, she says that's from someone just grabbing whatever parcels they see and throwing them in the wrong truck, so it goes to the wrong place and isn't caught until someone scans it again.
So it's a bunch of government workers that can't be fired and don't like working that just randomly throw shit into the wrong transport trucks that makes our orders bounce around from place to place.

Sounds about right.

 

[RockyP]

in some ways this is a feature and not a bug. Do we really want a bunch of hard working hall monitor types handling / delivering our packs? We can’t have it both ways and I’m just fine with the status quo. I hope it lasts forever, and as gov agencies go, I’m sure it will.

Similarly, I have a friend who works for air traffic control. I won’t share any of his stories in case any of y’all are about to travel.

 

[gobig2]

All of this Is why some sources close during dec and come back in Jan. Just to many missing packs to deal with. Not worth the hassle. However like stated D is open

 

[Clappincheeks]

@Defiant Pharma you mentioned you were getting 150 IU kits any update on that?

 

[Defiant Pharma]

@Defiant Pharma you mentioned you were getting 150 IU kits any update on that?

I haven't gotten around to ordering them yet. Trying to get mostly raws in at the moment. Once those all land safe then I will look at getting some HGH in.

regards,

D.

 

[Methyl Mike]

It's not so much that I don't want to run an AI. I was just hoping to find a dose of test that put me above my natty level but didn't require any ancillaries to tolerate. That just might not be in the cards for me.

The plan was find my tolerable trt dose, then cycle up with test prop and add a second compound or AI to control E2, and use TNE a few times a week PWO

But if I'm already at 90-100 E2 at TRT doses I don't know if going heavy on test is the best idea.

Not sure if I should consider other compounds like deca, with very low dose test cyp... or just say fck it and let it rip with test and an AI

Are you pretty lean? Aromatase is concentrated in fatty areas of the body. Dropping body fat usually lowers how much test gets converted.

 

[Methyl Mike]

800 Test 400 EQ 300 Deca, I'm definitely carbed up & hydrated. I'll go with 50 next time. Some extra strength would be nice, my pumps are already pretty good especially with some pre Humalog but I'd really like to see some extra drive, focus, aggression. Something to give me that extra drive before I squat.

Increase test to 1000 and lower EQ to 150 Deca to 150-200

Eq stimulates appetite and RBC production and 150mgs is plenty. Remember this is a vet steroid made for horses that typically comes in 50mg/ml. Check the label for equigan

'Anabolic agent of long duration and low androgenic activity. EQUI-GAN® is indicated as an appetite stimulant to increase muscle development and to improve the appearance of skin and hair. To reduce fatigue and poor performance in horses that have been being trained vigorously. It is also indicated to improve the body condition of animals by increasing weight due to better feed conversion. It is indicated as a support treatment, after surgical interventions and traumatic diseases or injuries.

DOSE:
Horses, cattle, sheep, goats, pigs: 1 ml for every 45 kg of weight and / or 1 ml for every 90 kg of weight, at the discretion of the Veterinarian, and may be repeated at 3 or 4 weeks. Canines: 0.5 ml per 10 kg of weight. Most animals respond with one or two treatments.'

So let's assume you weigh 220lbs, just a guess. Converted to kg that's 100kg give or take. This would be right about 3ml (150mgs if it were equigan) as an ideal dose of EQ, every 3 or 4 weeks.

I know you're not a horse but look deeper at this and you'll find what I'm getting at.

Testosterone builds muscle.

Eq makes you eat more and your body is more efficient with what you eat and favors building muscle.

Deca protects joints.

At least that's how I do it after much trial and error.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Perhaps obvious to anyone else reading, but want to make sure my interpretation is correct - solution (which this TNE in oil is) would have a more rapid onset than suspension, correct?

Uh no. Not sure why you would think that? TNE in water releases immediately after injecting. Most guys shoot it in arms or delts to get the right effect. Better blood supply to those areas. Shooting it in your glutes is painful and a waste as it won't kick fast enough. TNE in oil is a little slower but still twice as fast as propionate. TNE however readily converts to estrogen and many/most get gyno unless taking strong ancillaries.

 

[Methyl Mike]

The only thing you’re more likely to get with water vs oil based suspension is an infection.

And gyno

 

[Elektrobot]

Are you pretty lean? Aromatase is concentrated in fatty areas of the body. Dropping body fat usually lowers how much test gets converted.

I'm lean af

The rest of my bloodwork came back out of balance. My total test is higher on the lower dose....

Started thread about it

Thread 'Higher Total Test on lower dose, wtf is going on'

Sunday at 7:01 PM

I've posted around a bit in different topics about trying to find my tolerable base testosterone dose. Just got the rest of the results from my most recent blood draw and shit don't make sense. I lowered my test cyp dose by 40% (25mg/day to 15mg/day). Retested after 40 days. My total test increased from 1,631 to 1,667. I realize that increase is within a margin of error... but it certainly didn't go down.

Using primal test cyp 105mg/week split every day @15/mg

Estrogen is 94

My free test seems relatively low.

I'm not necessarily chasing a number. But I don't know if running test...

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[Defiant Pharma]

@Defiant Pharma you mentioned you were getting 150 IU kits any update on that?

I could possibly do 240iu kits instead of the 150? Would like to see which you all would prefer.

thanks,

D.

 

[DeodatoFulci]

I could possibly do 240iu kits instead of the 150? Would like to see which you all would prefer.

thanks,

D.

Here’s a vote for 240iu kits.

 

[Elektrobot]

Here’s a vote for 240iu kits.

same

 

[ackmack78]

800 Test 400 EQ 300 Deca, I'm definitely carbed up & hydrated. I'll go with 50 next time. Some extra strength would be nice, my pumps are already pretty good especially with some pre Humalog but I'd really like to see some extra drive, focus, aggression. Something to give me that extra drive before I squat.

Increase test to 1000 and lower EQ to 150 Deca to 150-200

Eq stimulates appetite and RBC production and 150mgs is plenty. Remember this is a vet steroid made for horses that typically comes in 50mg/ml. Check the label for equigan

'Anabolic agent of long duration and low androgenic activity. EQUI-GAN® is indicated as an appetite stimulant to increase muscle development and to improve the appearance of skin and hair. To reduce fatigue and poor performance in horses that have been being trained vigorously. It is also indicated to improve the body condition of animals by increasing weight due to better feed conversion. It is indicated as a support treatment, after surgical interventions and traumatic diseases or injuries.

DOSE:
Horses, cattle, sheep, goats, pigs: 1 ml for every 45 kg of weight and / or 1 ml for every 90 kg of weight, at the discretion of the Veterinarian, and may be repeated at 3 or 4 weeks. Canines: 0.5 ml per 10 kg of weight. Most animals respond with one or two treatments.'

So let's assume you weigh 220lbs, just a guess. Converted to kg that's 100kg give or take. This would be right about 3ml (150mgs if it were equigan) as an ideal dose of EQ, every 3 or 4 weeks.

I know you're not a horse but look deeper at this and you'll find what I'm getting at.

Testosterone builds muscle.

Eq makes you eat more and your body is more efficient with what you eat and favors building muscle.

Deca protects joints.

At least that's how I do it after much trial and error.

That's an interesting idea but overall I'm pretty happy with the progress so far this cycle and so far the EQ hasn't touched my hematocrit, really nothing does. Decas pretty well known for muscle building too.

The strength & aggression and all that I was looking for was just as a pre workout for a specific day. As far as overall strength & drive I'm happy with those in the cycle. Eventually the plan is to push the test to 1000 or 1200 but from experience that's not going to lead to extra aggression or focus for me.

 

[oldage]

Uh no. Not sure why you would think that? TNE in water releases immediately after injecting. Most guys shoot it in arms or delts to get the right effect. Better blood supply to those areas. Shooting it in your glutes is painful and a waste as it won't kick fast enough. TNE in oil is a little slower but still twice as fast as propionate. TNE however readily converts to estrogen and many/most get gyno unless taking strong ancillaries.

Where did u see this? TNE in oils raises E2? That is not backed by bloodwork and quite a few articles. In and out to fast.

 

[brutalbuilt]

I could possibly do 240iu kits instead of the 150? Would like to see which you all would prefer.

thanks,

D.

higher the better... 100iu kits dont last me long at all.. i run big boy dosages when it comes to gh

i vote for 240iu kits!

 

[Dial It In]

I could possibly do 240iu kits instead of the 150? Would like to see which you all would prefer.

thanks,

D.

240

 

[crispybacon!]

I could possibly do 240iu kits instead of the 150? Would like to see which you all would prefer.

thanks,

D.

I think if the quality is decent (>=97% and <=.2% dimer), most will prefer the 240.