desire to have children

[r.r.austrian]

Guys I need your help - I'm currently on TRT and we're trying to have a baby, I'm currently taking hmg 3x a week and 3x hcg + clomid, after 8 weeks I did a spermiogram and the total sperm count is 0.3 million - Should I rather go completely out of trt and just continue with mot hmg and hcg? Thanks

 

[GMbox]

You should completely out of trt and just continue with mot hmg and hcg, you are right!

 

[r.r.austrian]

You should completely out of trt and just continue with mot hmg and hcg, you are right!

But if I do it like that, my own body doesn't produce LH and FSH itself, but for sperm I need LH and FSH or am I wrong?

 

[GMbox]

But if I do it like that, my own body doesn't produce LH and FSH itself, but for sperm I need LH and FSH or am I wrong?

First of all you should go to the doctor and ask him about things like that. It depends if your body is health enough and how old are you

 

[GMbox]

But if I do it like that, my own body doesn't produce LH and FSH itself, but for sperm I need LH and FSH or am I wrong?

And I think you are wrong, you better ask more people about this to gather different ideas and thoughts

 

[Benf15harp]

Better rethink things

 

[r.r.austrian]

Better rethink things

thank u for your help

 

[MA11]

Are your drugs/hormones self prescribed?

Are you already in contact with a Kinderwunschklinik?

If your fertility/sperm will not recover to WHO minimum values by itself in the next few months while being off test, I'll recommend 2+ HGH daily.
Actually I recommend it anyway.

 

[Benf15harp]

thank u for your help

You’re welcome. My door is always open.

 

[r.r.austrian]

Are your drugs/hormones self prescribed?

Are you already in contact with a Kinderwunschklinik?

If your fertility/sperm will not recover to WHO minimum values by itself in the next few months while being off test, I'll recommend 2+ HGH daily.
Actually I recommend it anyway.

yes

no

So, you say I should let my values recover naturally, without PCT or HCG, HMG?

 

[MA11]

yes

no

So, you say I should let my values recover naturally, without PCT or HCG, HMG?

No, I think HCG and HMG are the right tools from what I've read. There is a fertility article in the media articles, is suggest you read it if you haven't already.

Most guys that tried for a baby went off test. I'd do the same.

I recommend the HGH because it improved my sperm and skyrocketed my morphology.

And contact a Kinderwunschklinik. Don't you have that in Austria? I assume you have health insurance. The huge benefit of a Kinderwunschklinik is that as soon as your sperm will improve to a certain level (but still below who standard) they will do an IUI. You nut in a cup, they dump the dead sperm and insert it pain free in 1 minute in your wife. If shes not ovulating, then she'll get a hcg shot. Also she'll get progesterone.
AND you'll get a free sperm analysis each time you do it.

 

[alecutheman]

The protocol I've used to get from 0 (aka too low to count) to 25M+ was:
* 75IU Bemfola (FSH) every other day
* 1000IU Ovitrelle (LH) every other day
for 5 months and then, for one month
* 75IU Bemfola daily
* 1500IU Ovitrelle every other day

During, I was running 250mg/week test + 100mg/week primo (and some peptides but not relevant). I would also recommend an antioxidant stack like glutatione, high dose vitamin C, Ubiquionol etc. for better motility.

 

[DugPrime]

Guys I need your help - I'm currently on TRT and we're trying to have a baby, I'm currently taking hmg 3x a week and 3x hcg + clomid, after 8 weeks I did a spermiogram and the total sperm count is 0.3 million - Should I rather go completely out of trt and just continue with mot hmg and hcg? Thanks

No, don't get off completely/

 

[r.r.austrian]

No, I think HCG and HMG are the right tools from what I've read. There is a fertility article in the media articles, is suggest you read it if you haven't already.

Most guys that tried for a baby went off test. I'd do the same.

I recommend the HGH because it improved my sperm and skyrocketed my morphology.

And contact a Kinderwunschklinik. Don't you have that in Austria? I assume you have health insurance. The huge benefit of a Kinderwunschklinik is that as soon as your sperm will improve to a certain level (but still below who standard) they will do an IUI. You nut in a cup, they dump the dead sperm and insert it pain free in 1 minute in your wife. If shes not ovulating, then she'll get a hcg shot. Also she'll get progesterone.
AND you'll get a free sperm analysis each time you do it.

Thanks for your advice, I'm thinking about stopping TRT and just continuing to take HMG and HCG + HGH to see if it works that way

 

[r.r.austrian]

The protocol I've used to get from 0 (aka too low to count) to 25M+ was:
* 75IU Bemfola (FSH) every other day
* 1000IU Ovitrelle (LH) every other day
for 5 months and then, for one month
* 75IU Bemfola daily
* 1500IU Ovitrelle every other day

During, I was running 250mg/week test + 100mg/week primo (and some peptides but not relevant). I would also recommend an antioxidant stack like glutatione, high dose vitamin C, Ubiquionol etc. for better motility.

Wouldn't you say it would be better for me if I went completely out with te?

 

[alecutheman]

Wouldn't you say it would be better for me if I went completely out with te?

I didn't and it worked great for me. If it hadn't that was probably my next approach.