DHB 100/+ NPP 200mg/ml insane pip question.

[kilsong]

(cross post)
I'm currently using 400 DHB /week.. Test cyp 750/ week.
DHB is 100mg/ml. I decided to add 400/NPP.
Problem is the NPP is 200mg/ml.
Here's what my first two glute shots looked like:
125 mg test cyp
50 mg dhb
50 mg npp.
Two shots so far and it is the ABSOLUTE worst pip in my life.
The first one (so far) is still bothering me 5 days later.
Second one was yesterday morning on other glute and it literally just woke me up from a dead sleep.
It's definitely not the dhd because I'm 6 weeks into it and never once had pip this bad.
Im thinking it's the mixture of the high mg NPP and the known pip associated with DHB mixed In the same syringe causing it.
I really want this combo, but this pip won't allow it.
Any suggestions at all?

 

[Themassterplan]

A few things come to mind.
You can do an injection with only the NPP and see if you get pip.
If you do, you can heat up the oil in warm water before injecting and see if that helps. If not, you can try to dilute it with more oil and make it 100mg/ml or just chuck it in the trash and chalk it up as $40 down the drain.

 

[Eman]

Im thinking it's the mixture of the high mg NPP and the known pip associated with DHB mixed In the same syringe causing it.

Probably should have had a little more foresight with this when buying it, man.

My suggestion is to chalk it up to a lesson learned... Fuck blends and fuck high dosed oils. They cause way more problems than they solve. You can try to dilute but I personally feel it's more work than it's worth.

 

[NLM36]

I did 200npp once and trashed it. It hurt to walk for a week and a half. I don’t mess with high concentration gear anymore.

 

[Themassterplan]

Probably should have had a little more foresight with this when buying it, man.

My suggestion is to chalk it up to a lesson learned... Fuck blends and fuck high dosed oils. They cause way more problems than they solve. You can try to dilute but I personally feel it's more work than it's worth.

Had to chuck this T500 for the same reason once. Never again with the high dosed oil.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

A few things come to mind.
You can do an injection with only the NPP and see if you get pip.
If you do, you can heat up the oil in warm water before injecting and see if that helps. If not, you can try to dilute it with more oil and make it 100mg/ml or just chuck it in the trash and chalk it up as $40 down the drain.

I second that diluting would be a good option. Since your not doing that much anyways

 

[kilsong]

Unfortunately I have 60 ml of it.. So throwing it away would be costly.
Im definitely gonna pin JUST one half ml of NPP and half ml of Test cyp on my next injection to see if the NPP is the culprit.
Another member elsewhere suggesting diluting it as well.
If it safe to assume this sterile grape seed oil would be the correct one?
I sure do appreciate the help.
And yeah... I kinda jumped the gun with the NPP 200. The DHB pip is manageable.

Amazon.com: Grape Seed Oil 100% Sterile Filtered USP Grade 20mL (1): Industrial & Scientific

 

[kilsong]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BLY17J2/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_fabc_2E643Z3V621TZA7K217V

 

[Forthewin1123]

(cross post)
I'm currently using 400 DHB /week.. Test cyp 750/ week.
DHB is 100mg/ml. I decided to add 400/NPP.
Problem is the NPP is 200mg/ml.
Here's what my first two glute shots looked like:
125 mg test cyp
50 mg dhb
50 mg npp.
Two shots so far and it is the ABSOLUTE worst pip in my life.
The first one (so far) is still bothering me 5 days later.
Second one was yesterday morning on other glute and it literally just woke me up from a dead sleep.
It's definitely not the dhd because I'm 6 weeks into it and never once had pip this bad.
Im thinking it's the mixture of the high mg NPP and the known pip associated with DHB mixed In the same syringe causing it.
I really want this combo, but this pip won't allow it.

Simple fix bro.. do a solo shot of npp.. if that's definitely the culprit.. get 10ml sterile oil that matches your carrier oil.. get 1 capped sterile vial. Draw half of 200mg/ml npp and inject into empty vial.. then top off both vials with equal amounts in each.. will give.you 20ml of 100mg/ml npp.. should be pip free.. I inject 1ml of 100mg/ml npp eod.. never had pip

 

[kilsong]

Simple fix bro.. do a solo shot of npp.. if that's definitely the culprit.. get 10ml sterile oil that matches your carrier oil.. get 1 capped sterile vial. Draw half of 200mg/ml npp and inject into empty vial.. then top off both vials with equal amounts in each.. will give.you 20ml of 100mg/ml npp.. should be pip free.. I inject 1ml of 100mg/ml npp eod.. never had pip

Okay... So that's what I'm going to do. One last question... As per supplier the oil used is "fractionated coconut oils and EO"
Im having a hard time finding that but I can easily get 100% sterile grape seed oil.
Would that be an issue mixing the two carrier oils?

 

[Forthewin1123]

Okay... So that's what I'm going to do. One last question... As per supplier the oil used is "fractionated coconut oils and EO"
Im having a hard time finding that but I can easily get 100% sterile grape seed oil.
Would that be an issue mixing the two carrier oils?

I would assume mct oil will work best as I believe that's a fancy name for mct.. also having eo in tje mix is another thing that may be causing your pip!!!.. regardless you best bet is mct oil over grapeseed.. mct is coconut oil

 

[kilsong]

Ahhhh... Okay.. Gotcha.
So it's this one

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/MCT-100-Sterile-Filtered-100mL/dp/B08JHCR547&ved=2ahUKEwir64_ZrJPxAhX4JzQIHfdYCXkQFjAAegQIFxAC&usg=AOvVaw0jrRQa_BhfsbSrHcZiGNaW

 

[TRT.]

Probably should have had a little more foresight with this when buying it, man.

My suggestion is to chalk it up to a lesson learned... Fuck blends and fuck high dosed oils. They cause way more problems than they solve. You can try to dilute but I personally feel it's more work than it's worth.

^Ya I'm totally with this.^

I would assume mct oil will work best as I believe that's a fancy name for mct.. also having eo in tje mix is another thing that may be causing your pip!!!.. regardless you best bet is mct oil over grapeseed.. mct is coconut oil

Oil is oil. Just cut it with anything oil type. Make sure you let the oils mix in the syringe by letting the air bubble move back and forth for a while. Get it up to 90° or something. It will definitely help the mixing and viscosity for shooting it but it will NOT help you with pip. Viscosity has nothing to do with this. It's solvents and the amount the brewer used to keep the NPP suspended.
Take me for example. I brew Test Propionate and NPP at 100-110mg/ml with grapeseed oil. I have zero issues pushing both through a 27g and it's so smooth afterwards I can't even remember if I shot it or not. And I do shoulder injections which is a sensitive area for me.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from high concentration shit. The ratio of BB and BA increases substantially as it reaches the saturation point. This means even if you cut it to 100mg/ml there's still 10-15% more BB then necessary and that's what's lighting your ass up.

 

[Forthewin1123]

Sure you can use any oil .. but any oil other then mct will make it thicker ..there is a difference and will make injections tougher if you are used to mct..

 

[TRT.]

Sure you can use any oil .. but any oil other then mct will make it thicker ..there is a difference and will make injections tougher if you are used to mct..

I use grapeseed oil and it shoots fast and just fine through a 27g. Weather he wants to use MCT or grape it's not gonna help his situation. He's having post injection pain that's abnormally bad.

 

[Youngrobert1]

This reminds of when I got some tren ace 200. Might have only done 1 ml. Had to be trashed. It was rough.

 

[kilsong]

Simple fix bro.. do a solo shot of npp.. if that's definitely the culprit.. get 10ml sterile oil that matches your carrier oil.. get 1 capped sterile vial. Draw half of 200mg/ml npp and inject into empty vial.. then top off both vials with equal amounts in each.. will give.you 20ml of 100mg/ml npp.. should be pip free.. I inject 1ml of 100mg/ml npp eod.. never had pip

Sorry for the delayed response..didnt wanna clog up the section while I waited for my sterile vials and MCT oil to arrive.
Thank u all the responses.
@Forthewin1123
I did exactly what u said and injected 1/2 ml (100mg NPP) about 12 hrs ago.
Barring any delayed onset of pip, I am 1000000% pip free!!
Zilch.. Nada.. Nothing at all.
It's like I never even hit it.
Your solution gave me a huge sigh of relief.
BUT STILL.... never ever again will I order this high of a concentration.
I have always used 100 mg.
Looks like I got off easy and didn't have to take a $400 loss.

 

[lifter6973]

It could be that your asian boyfriend is smacking your ass too hard after you pin bro. Tell your asian boyfriend not to smack near injection spots.
But yeah, just stay away from the high concentrated gear and you are a lucky one if DHB never gave you PIP.
Love ya Killy.
xoxoxxooxoxoxo

 

[kilsong]

For the record...
He likes it when I smack HIM on the ass... me.. not so much tho.
I tried explaining to him how bad this pip was but he didnt fully understand.
This shit woke me up in the middle of the night.
But I'm back now!
Tomorrow I'm doing 80mg DHB.. 100mg NPP..and no test cyp.
Which is good... Because I was only using alot of Test to dilute the DHB.
Now I can drop my Test down to 500/week from about a gram.
This run is shaping up pretty nicely so far.