dhea to testosterone conversion

[devildog93]

I was wondering how many people, if any on this board are going all the way with conversions from dhea to testosterone. I had a couple of questions about the conversion that i was hoping someone could answer. Like any conversion i assume you would need to start with a good base product. How do you know you are starting off with a good dhea source and that the dhea powder itself is pure so to speak?

I saw a write-up where a couple of chemists did this with little more than normal kitchen supplies such as glasses, spoon/stirrer, etc. I think the most exotic thing he had in the setup was something to siphon off excess gas. I think in this case he used a water hose of all things. I think his point was that you could do it at home with everyday items. If anyone can speak about that it would be great.

 

[BrewThru56]

I've read several articles a while back of where they convert to 4-AD and then to test base. Be careful, even when being 100% careful could have some major impurities when working with the reducing agents required

 

[devildog93]

Yea i'm just gathering information at this point. I read an article over at elitefitness by some canadian chemist who demonstrated that it could be done basically with nothing other than dhea powder and what he had laying around the kitchen.

Like you, i was also a little wary of some of the chemicals involved, but i am sure i use chemicals just as dangerous around the shop. The difference is that i would not plan on injecting or ingesting carb cleaner or naptha like i would with the final test powder.

I am not trying to be a cheap ass, but with all the bunk crap we have flying around it seems that getting back to basics and doing things yourselves within reason is the way to go. I'm getting more than a little tired of 25% purity gear, selective scammers, and the baggage that goes along with dealing with them. If there was indeed a way to make 93% pure test powder at your house without blowing the block up i would think that is something we need to know. With all the powders coming from China and being crap, i think it might be time to go bootlegger so to speak. Hell, if my relatives in Arkansas did it(still do it most likely), then why can't we?

This is just a thought exercise at this point. I like to pride myself on knowing how to do things, even if it is something i gladly pay someone else to do. If i could indeed do this then the only difference between a source and the guy who makes my dinner would be the legality of it rather than my lack of knowledge.

 

[Manny]

Do you have the link?

 

[devildog93]

The best one i read was a elitefitness link and you need a premium membership to see it i guess. I read it then went on thinking i could go back and look at it later, but no dice.

This one had a bit of information halfway down. http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/352230-powders.html. That wasn't exactly what i was looking for, but is part of the process. Basically they started with andro and finished with either anadrol or dbol. One more step at the beginning would allow you to start with dhea. Another step at the end would leave you with test base i think. You would then need to add an ester to the test base. The process for going from Dhea to dbol isn't a real long one from my reading though.

The post on elitefitness had a lot of information from actual chemists and was a bit more detailed. I guess i need to dig into my pocket and contribute to the cause to read further though.

 

[jcc80]

Does anyone still do syno kits? I successfully converted synovex h before, but that was close to 10 years ago. Certainly a reliable way to get a nice batch of test prop powder, and I understand it could be broken down to test base if needed.

 

[devildog93]

According to the article this would be a bit more intensive process than recovering prop from synovex, but not by much. Basically, you could convert dhea to a test base fairly cheap. The biggest plus i saw was that they recovered test base at 85-93% purity. I know quite a few guys that would love to have test at 90% purity or thereabouts including myself.

Just something else as an alternative to all the crap gear that is floating around.

 

[Mus4]

I also read a lot of those articles, but you need to know the DHEA you can buy from the regular online sites are a different DHEA. (Those supplement DHEA is not the right one, and the DHEA they mention is not been sold anymore.)
Thus, I just didn't cared about it and just ordered test.P powder, since chance for getting bunk test.P is so low compared with other AAS.

 

[devildog93]

Chances of getting bunk powder are just as bad as anything else at the moment. China powders are crap and their quality control coupled with sources almost ensures garbage to the end user.