DHT enanthate for gains?

[docpepper]

New post from the guy... if true, this surely would have been figured out by BB's right? I get if a BB skipped over a wonder drug on the mental side of things but for not for physical

I see these guys pop up on my twitter as well. These "DHT will make you alpha bro" types. It's such a typical move for these types of promotional twitter guys.

TRT's super hot, Joe Rogan talks about it all the time, it's mainstream etc. So you can't really make a mark just being another voice in the "Get on TRT bro!" chorus. Ya gotta stick out. So you pick a lesser-known hormone that is already very controversial (PFS people vs. Fin/Dut users) and pretend it's actually the secret elixr to masculinity.

I'm no expert on gear, but I've poked around enough source price lists to know that I've never once seen an esterfied DHT being sold, raw or oil. Maybe it's a niche product that I've missed that 1 or 2 vendors here sell, correct me if I'm wrong.

So we're supposed to believe that, what, he had this product synthesized by a lab just for him and some of his coaching clients? Instead of just using readily available AAS that are good enough for even IFBB pros?

Maybe he did, or like I said, maybe there is someone selling it that I haven't seen. Maybe you can get a script for it in some countries, I don't know.

But I still don't see why someone would want to inject DHT even if it were as easy as Test to obtain.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1105045

TLDR: Gave dudes different test doses, from TRT to blast. One group got Dutasteride 2.5mg with it, one got placebo. Most important snippet:

Conclusion: Changes in fat-free mass in response to graded testosterone doses did not differ in men in whom DHT was suppressed by dutasteride from those treated with placebo, indicating that conversion of testosterone to DHT is not essential for mediating its anabolic effects on muscle.

So you had a bunch of dudes tank their DHT to as close to zero as you can get with a pill (no additional suppression of DHT above 2.5mg Dutasteride), and they built muscle at the same rate as the guys on the same doses of test that still their DHT intact.

And if you trust William Llwelyn more, from page 205 of Anabolics:

Dihydrotestosterone itself is the most active androgen in the human body, displaying an ability to bind and activate the androgen receptor at least three or four times greater than that of its parent steroid testosterone.
This trait, however, is not accompanied by equally powerful anabolic tendencies. In the case of dihydrotestosterone, we have a steroid that is almost purely androgenic, with only minimal muscle-building (anabolic) action.​

 

[beach]

I believe one of the reasons DHT did not gain popularity is this: some studies I’ve looked at show that in the 70s and 80s, the lower limit of DHT levels was 600 pg/ml, and the upper limit was 1800 pg/ml. This was natural in humans. So, if this is true, when people in those years took testosterone externally, their DHT/testosterone ratios were higher compared to today. Perhaps that’s why they didn’t see effects as strong as people do today.

In fact, in videos shot in the 80s in my area, there are almost no obese people, from ages 20 to 80.

The reason it’s so effective today might actually be the negative effects of 5-AR inhibitors, meaning this compound could be more effective today than it was back then.

Suspending all doubt for a second: why hasn't a source created or even tried to estrify DHT? If what these guys on twitter are saying is true, it would be literal gold and every source couldn't make enough of it, right?

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Saw this post on X today, the guy claims to only be taking 150 DHT + 150 test per week:

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What do you guys think?
Is he full of shit?
Anyone have experience with DHT?

Guys got great genetics. He'd likely be about to drink horse piss and see an effect.

 

[PolarBear88]

dht is just as important or more important than test but all those twitter accounts are scam grifter accounts

a lot of them preach taking progesterone / pregnenolone for men. it’s an offshoot of the raw meat diet grifters

 

[29trt]

dht is just as important or more important than test but all those twitter accounts are scam grifter accounts

a lot of them preach taking progesterone / pregnenolone for men. it’s an offshoot of the raw meat diet grifters

More important for what?
Man with higher natural DHT are less muscular not more...

THINK about it ,DHT drives strength up more than test does because it's a more powerful androgen so what does the body do? What it does best optimize shit...in other words make the body as efficient as possible so if you have plenty of strength to live your daily life the body keeps as minimal muscle as necessary to have that level of strength (hence why at the gym you need to progressively get stronger )
Dht makes your muscles stronger so they do not need to be bigger ... When all things are equal..
But we have anabolic stuff( test, gh, insulin) that encourage the body to produce muscles anyway IF you challenge the muscles at ever increasing work.

So just adding dht to a Test cruise will possibly make you smaller....

Over the years I noticed that It's really a bad idea for bodybuilding to add compounds that increase just strength like halo etc as the only thing that will do is stress your joints ...hence why bodybuilders do not traditionally use such compounds.

 

[mochul]

New post from the guy... if true, this surely would have been figured out by BB's right? I get if a BB skipped over a wonder drug on the mental side of things but not for physical. Hard time believing (like all, I want it to be true)

So DHT is the new DNP? lol
Guy got shredded in less than a month from at least 25%. NO WAY that stody is true.

 

[PolarBear88]

More important for what?
Man with higher natural DHT are less muscular not more...

THINK about it ,DHT drives strength up more than test does because it's a more powerful androgen so what does the body do? What it does best optimize shit...in other words make the body as efficient as possible so if you have plenty of strength to live your daily life the body keeps as minimal muscle as necessary to have that level of strength (hence why at the gym you need to progressively get stronger )
Dht makes your muscles stronger so they do not need to be bigger ... When all things are equal..
But we have anabolic stuff( test, gh, insulin) that encourage the body to produce muscles anyway IF you challenge the muscles at ever increasing work.

So just adding dht to a Test cruise will possibly make you smaller....

Over the years I noticed that It's really a bad idea for bodybuilding to add compounds that increase just strength like halo etc as the only thing that will do is stress your joints ...hence why bodybuilders do not traditionally use such compounds.

dht plays a big role in brain and sexual development

i’ve never taken it but it’s something that I wanted to try. not sure if masteron would give the same benefits or not

Dht makes your muscles stronger so they do not need to be bigger

idk about that.

it’s worth exploring for other benefits not muscle building

 

[29trt]

dht plays a big role in brain and sexual development

i’ve never taken it but it’s something that I wanted to try. not sure if masteron would give the same benefits or not

Dht makes your muscles stronger so they do not need to be bigger

idk about that.

it’s worth exploring for other benefits not muscle building

Yeah it might be interesting for cognition but I bet allot of people will get aggression and impulsivity from it ,might not be very productive

I've already said if DHT enanthate becomes available at a decent cost I will try it , Masteron is great for me primo is not ,so who knows what extra dht will do(I'm naturally a high dht guy already...)