Juicedhead
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Whats the deal with balkan?
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did balkan stop making anabolics?
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Liska
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more cash meow in catabolics
Juicedhead
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ok so they only make testosterone now.. thats fucking dumb. Is SP labs and balkan the same company pretty much? Or i mean is it the same gear?
Of course, the Balkans produce medicines and they are available in pharmacies. But steroids? Out of curiosity, I tried to find Balkan testosterones in online pharmacies in Moldova and Romania, but they are not available. Nebido, no problems (with a recipe, of course). So how did it happen that the factory produces steroids, they are sold on the meso, but they are not available in pharmacies? And maybe the factory doesn't produce them anymore?))) . Maybe there are guys from Moldova and Romania here on the forum, let them say if the Balkan testosterones are sold in pharmacies.
Juicedhead
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well they have testosterone listed on their website but no other anabolics,,. so im curious wtf are all these sites selling balking prodicts selling then? old stock? and also is SP labs the same gear as balkan?
Den84
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currently they have restarted producing some of the suspended products, but now you will never find them listed on the site again for legal reasons (Moldova has started the procedure for EU entry and in pharmacies, as on their site, you can only find aas which are legal in other EU countries, like testosterones)
essentially they are producing the suspended products, as they have always done with their second line SP : secretly, or by paying bribes. Considering that the new pro-EU / pro-NATO government is more corrupt than the previous one (pro-Russian), the second hypothesis is more probable.
Den84
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evidently you've never been to Moldova, you definitely haven't been there a few years ago. I got married in Moldova in 2010, honestly I have always found all the steroids produced by BP in all pharmacies including parabolan, in those years a medical prescription was not required, then the pro-Europeans arrived and introduced a prescription obligation for steroids, until the suspension (end of 2021) of steroids different from testosterone.
but the suspension only lasted a few months, it seems. And it was logical that Balkan would start producing his entire line again sooner or later. I'm waiting for the parabolan, I feel that even it will be back in production soon.
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Liska
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As soon as these are available to you with new batch dates and verifiable via the very BP website which denies their existence, can you please post tons of evidence of them? I've no idea if you're correct or the Balkan sellers on Meso are but a state of uncertainty is a super rare 5 star blessing for counterfeiters and anything is better than that spreading across the bbboards like a wildfire.
Den84
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I don't see why Moldovan wholesalers, from whom I drew balkan/sp in the golden age, who have always taken balkan directly from the factory, should lie and suddenly sell fakes... this makes no sense. I have analyzed many balkan/sp products in 2018/2019, the results of some jano tests I had shared here on meso, they are still available… anyway @Liska to understand who is right it is very simple, the new batches of suspended products have dates of expiry 2027 (for injectables this means that they were produced in 2022, if you consider that they have 5 years of validity). 2022 (on paper) balkan should not have produced them. If I analyze a balkan primobolan expiring 2027 and it’s come back correctly dosed, means that it was really produced by balkan.
no counterfeiter would buy primobolan powder to scam bodybuilders. The Bulgarian copies contained Test Prop all the line of the Balkan ampoules, for example
Liska
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I'm not talking anyone with any legitimate relationship to BP, I'm talking about a period of time that is likely to last years during which the vast majority of bodybuilders will not be aware of changes in their lineup because there is no easily accessible resource that isn't displaying outdated and incorrect information, which will become way more incorrect if you're right about them hiding the existence of their lineup on the official website which will remain printed on their boxes in the future.
Whenever there's a mismatch or gap in information regarding pharmaceutical or otherwise reputable products/brands, it will be exploited by counterfeiters.
Harm reduction via sharing information is what Meso is supposed to be about, and I don't see any of the numerous Balkan sellers speaking on what you've addressed, so why not embrace this unique position and provide a community service by posting good quality pictures of every new Balkan batch as it becomes available to you so the community will have accurate reference material? I'll cover any costs this may incur.
Of course there are counterfeits mimicking the original product as closely as possible including the contents and concentration. Mass-producing a perfect copy requires an incredible amount of skill and experience and masters of this craft take a lot of pride in their work, rightfully so. These aren't what you'll be seeing primarily but discounting their existence entirely creates an unnecessary blind spot.
Den84
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we are still in the early days of this new decision by the top management of Balkan, to return to producing part of their original line, previously suspended. Your speech is correct, but it could also apply to SP: why should people trust dealers who guarantee that it is made by Balkan, if SP is not mentioned on the Balkan website at all. It could be a story spread by counterfeiters who exploit Balkan's popularity to sell poor quality, underdosed or fake aas... but this never happened, there are dozens of analyzes confirming the quality and perfection of sp dosages lab. I had analyzed the super tren sp (100 ace + 100 hexa) and come back perfectly dosed. It can't be done by counterfeiters, let's be serious. These are the proofs, that balkan pharmaceuticals is behind Sp. in fact everyone trusts sp in the same way as balkan , indeed at the moment they trust sp more than balkan, yet on the balkan site there is no sp.
Sp lab Super Tren - lab test by janoshick [blind sample]
Label claim: 100 mg/ml tren A + 100 mg/ml Tren H (total 200 mg/ml) Result: 109,56 mg/ml Tren A 102,44 mg/ml Tren H this will be my tren for the future cut (2020). I like this mix because the tren H is very slow, so in the past I mixed 1 ml of para + 0.5 ml of tren A...
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Liska
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Every brand is as good as their last batch, not their first bitch from 2019. SP is a black box buried under layers of dust, and neither brand should get a free pass from third party labtesting each new batch of their products just because bodybuilders hear "pharma" and gowe are still in the early days of this new decision by the top management of Balkan, to return to producing part of their original line, previously suspended. Your speech is correct, but it could also apply to SP: why should people trust dealers who guarantee that it is made by Balkan, if SP is not mentioned on the Balkan website at all. It could be a story spread by counterfeiters who exploit Balkan's popularity to sell poor quality, underdosed or fake aas... but this never happened, there are dozens of analyzes confirming the quality and perfection of sp dosages lab. I had analyzed the super tren sp (100 ace + 100 hexa) and come back perfectly dosed. It can't be done by counterfeiters, let's be serious. These are the proofs, that balkan pharmaceuticals is behind Sp. in fact everyone trusts sp in the same way as balkan , indeed at the moment they trust sp more than balkan, yet on the balkan site there is no sp.
Sp lab Super Tren - lab test by janoshick [blind sample]
Label claim: 100 mg/ml tren A + 100 mg/ml Tren H (total 200 mg/ml) Result: 109,56 mg/ml Tren A 102,44 mg/ml Tren H this will be my tren for the future cut (2020). I like this mix because the tren H is very slow, so in the past I mixed 1 ml of para + 0.5 ml of tren A...
Two decades ago you could hire a licensed pharmaceutical company to contract manufacture high quality counterfeit British Dragon orals and in 2023 you consider some labtest results that could be matched in accuracy by any homebrewer irrefutable proof?
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Den84
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honestly, I do not understand where you want to get with your speech so convoluted and funny, which now seems to curl up on itself. A “well known member” of this forum @cadafi regularly tests balkan/sp products from Jano, and even the latest sp batches are back legit. The Primobolan SP tablets,(new batch) declared at 50 mg/tab come back 54 mg/tab. So according to your reasoning this is a counterfeit SP, and the evil scammers/home brewer overdose, by about 4mg, Methenolone Acetate powder which is among the most expensive of all, rather than slip in a cheaper powder like stano.
it is a speech that cannot stand. sounds like a speech born from a novice kid.
Regarding British Dragon , if it has disappeared from circulation for years, it’s because the counterfeits didn't work, it was often completely bunk, unlike the famous SP "counterfeits" which by chance are always dosed full, even on the most difficult molecules.
it is a speech that cannot stand. sounds like a speech born from a novice kid.
Regarding British Dragon , if it has disappeared from circulation for years, it’s because the counterfeits didn't work, it was often completely bunk, unlike the famous SP "counterfeits" which by chance are always dosed full, even on the most difficult molecules.
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CrazyMoldovan
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on the market there're fake bp.. not much.. but I seen the price list for fake blkan where all was by 12 eur, buy only from trusted sellers to avoid abscess, aids and other shits which production from the dirty basement
Liska
Subscriber
basically, your english sucks
roleplay BP & SP rep to your hearts content but please provide Meso with news and pictures of the returning products once they're available to you.
Primobolan Ace is not particularly difficult to dose correctly, nor amongst the most expensive raws.
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Den84
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actually, your speech is very simple to understand, so I was being ironic in the previous post, where I wrote that I didn't understand. you claim that the bp/sp resellers (here on meso) are selling copies, because they have in stock previous discontinued BP products. Although some new products are tested and come back accurately dosed, so you continue by saying that they are well dosed copies LOL ignoring that Bulgarian copies are still being sold in Europe and contain Test p across the entire injectable range, and price is 10/12 eur box for all products, as correctly wrote @CrazyMoldovan. But you're not providing any proof, it's just your arrogant assumptions, which have the sole purpose of confusing users, and leading them to buy from your web site of steroids and cats.
I, unlike you, have always provided photographic evidence, and laboratory tests to support my theories, and as you see in the old thread, the Bulgarian copies of 10 euros per box were completely different, the shape of the vial different, is very easy to recognize.
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I would like to clarify that I made this thread, only and exclusively, to update the Meso community, with all the news coming out of Moldova. no sales. Please do keep us informed here as to what is going on with Balkan. I myself am new to their products but am so far impressed with their...
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regarding the Primo Ace powder, which you claims is easy to find in tablets, you are lying, knowing you are lying. All veteran users of this forum, well remember the Primobolan Acetate Arl Russia, which was tested by Jano, but contained 7 mg of oxa, instead of 50 mg of Primo Ace, declared in label. this decreed the death of their thread, and the end of their business on Meso.
no Bulgarian counterfeiter would fill Primo Ace tablets with real Primo Ace, and resell it for 12 euros. Or you think that the scammers work to lose money ?
An advice, stop making fun of the meso community, or provide evidence proving, that BP/Sp dealers, are selling copies. But you don't have any proof to show, so your speech has come up a blind alley, and it looks like you're not making a very good impression. Your goal of bringing more customers to your store by disparaging other sources isn't achieving the result you want, you're probably getting the opposite effect. I would have bought Primobolan 175 mg Pharmaqo (10 vials) from you, but I will switch to another source, sorry, but I don't like to buy from a liar businessman.
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Liska
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I get that english wasn't taught in school back in your day but when you're misunderstanding/misinterpreting posts to such an egregious extent, it's time to use a translation app. None of the arguments you are pissed off about & arguing against were said by me nor do I agree with them - they are exclusively a consequence of your initial misinterpretation. Don't listen to me, listen to someone you consider trustworthy for their interpretation without telling them yours prior and only then write a response.
Înțeleg că engleza nu era predată la școală pe vremea ta, dar când înțelegi greșit/interpretezi greșit postările într-o măsură atât de flagrantă, este timpul să folosești o aplicație de traducere. Niciunul dintre argumentele pentru care sunteți supărat și împotriva cărora vă certați nu a fost spus de mine și nici nu sunt de acord cu ele - sunt exclusiv o consecință a interpretării dvs. greșite inițiale. Nu mă asculta, ascultă pe cineva pe care îl consideri demn de încredere pentru interpretarea lor, fără să-i spui în prealabil a ta și abia apoi scrie un răspuns.
Înțeleg că engleza nu era predată la școală pe vremea ta, dar când înțelegi greșit/interpretezi greșit postările într-o măsură atât de flagrantă, este timpul să folosești o aplicație de traducere. Niciunul dintre argumentele pentru care sunteți supărat și împotriva cărora vă certați nu a fost spus de mine și nici nu sunt de acord cu ele - sunt exclusiv o consecință a interpretării dvs. greșite inițiale. Nu mă asculta, ascultă pe cineva pe care îl consideri demn de încredere pentru interpretarea lor, fără să-i spui în prealabil a ta și abia apoi scrie un răspuns.
cadafi
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Granabolics still sells parabolan, i don’t know if legit or not, i got a few vials of enandrol from them, tested at 228 mg at the same time i got also a few vials from bodyroids it also tested at 228 mg, painfully similar they are different batches, so i don’t know, it is what i use for my TRT and i feel as always, when tryed an UGL for trt i felt not so good to the point of panicing.
I’ll post those test when i get home, it’s good to air these things, 2 different sellers one of them an official reseller, tested exactly the same, also different batches.
At 120 mg per week splitted into 2 shots, my total testosterone is 10 ng, SHBG is always in the lower end 20-25.
I feel good, i tend to mix enandrol with pharma testosterone i get from my local pharmacy, i only get one amp from the pharmacy per month to avoid trouble with authorities and whatnot.
Older one from granabolics, latest one from bodyroids.
I’ll post batch number when i get home
I’ll post those test when i get home, it’s good to air these things, 2 different sellers one of them an official reseller, tested exactly the same, also different batches.
At 120 mg per week splitted into 2 shots, my total testosterone is 10 ng, SHBG is always in the lower end 20-25.
I feel good, i tend to mix enandrol with pharma testosterone i get from my local pharmacy, i only get one amp from the pharmacy per month to avoid trouble with authorities and whatnot.
Older one from granabolics, latest one from bodyroids.
I’ll post batch number when i get home
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On the Balkan check products site, they were both geniun ?
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