Did John Kerry cheat during the debate?????

Windigo said:
Well you obviously ignored all the polls that still showed Bush ahead or tied, except for Newsweek of course. I'm very pleased that we are still ahead since all of these polls were conducted over the weekend which is a big plus for Bush. Polling over the weekend is supposed to be a big no no, since republicans tend not to be home. But I suppose with the urgency to get some polls out after the debates the polling groups decided to break the rules even if it does lead to skewed numbers.

As debater I can say that Kerry bringing prepared notes to an extemporaneous debate is big time cheating. It is a huge advantage that cannot be discounted. If I were in the Bush administration I would demand that Kerry be frisked next time.


Windigo, as an oral master debater, What are your opinions on GWB wearing the earpiece ?

Where do the Republicans tend to be on the weekend ? Are they out working at the homeless shelter or performing some other civic duty ?

Sorry - I meant verbal master debator. :)
 
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National polls don't mean shit....it will come down to Ohio, Florida, Pennslvania, and Michingan.

I think it is weird that Kerry has lost his 22 point lead in NJ. He is gonna lose Minnesota too......both of which Gore carried.
 
Quasimoto said:
Where do the Republicans tend to be on the weekend ? Are they out working at the homeless shelter or performing some other civic duty ?

No, we are usually trap shooting off our yachts making fun of poor people and planning ways to deprive old people of their meds. :D
 
black0ut said:
Bush would run and get his dads gun and shoot them, then try explaining to the cops that it was necessary

Since Kerry allowed the UN to regulate/halt gun sales in the United States so that we could be more like the pussy French....Kerry runs and gets his sling shot.
 
Seriously ? damn...i knew it !!! :)

I really hope that Windigo will explain exactly what he meant by that statement.
 
both of them disregarded the debate rules, kerry clearly took out a pen as did bush. bush also interrupted kerry several times and went over time a couple times as well.

all "cheating" aside bush still got made to look like an ass. as usual when he doesn't have a memorized speech. he's a very poor communicator.
 
ratmonkey said:
both of them disregarded the debate rules, kerry clearly took out a pen as did bush. bush also interrupted kerry several times and went over time a couple times as well.

all "cheating" aside bush still got made to look like an ass. as usual when he doesn't have a memorized speech. he's a very poor communicator.

LOL....if he is so bad, then why isn't Kerry up by 20 points in every state and national poll???

Because most Americans are not great communicators and are not articulate. Bush relates to the common man...he does not preach to them the way Kerry does.

The democrats need the uneducated and poor to remain uneducated and poor.....that is their constituency.
 
db2 said:
www.pollingreport.com

I am not a conservative republican I dont have time to make things up.

Your link doesn't show the data you gave?

It does show latest polls though...

0410GEN.GIF


The latest ones still look good for W.
 
Quasimoto said:
Yes we kil't a few al qaeda members. But Al Qaeda wasnt in Iraq, until we went there first. It'd be alot easier to catch the man who EVERYONE but you thinks is responsible for 9/11 if we had committed to full brunt of out troops there. He is the bounty, he is the prize . He is a fucking ICON to these people...bring him down, they will crumble. He is al qaeda man...without him they are a misguided group of wannabe soldiers that wouldnt have the resources to fight .

Frosty - I have been to afghanistan and pakistan bro, remember me ? i served my country in a time of war and peace. What a contradiction of explanations you give, " We're the most powerful nation in the world...you think we can't go into two little poorly defended countries at once?" and "you obviously don't know what Afghanistan is like (terrain, weather, etc) " ....do you think we should have 2 fronts , or just 1 because of the tough terrain and weather condition in afghanistan ? You dont make any sense....

Have you seen the latest....

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive0410\SPE20041004a.html


People do need to realize that the war on terror is more than OBL. I think he's dead. No ones heard from him in a while.
 
NP Windigo, thats a fair question...I was an EOD diver. I was a bomb squad technician. EOD stands for Explosive Ordnance Disposal, so i went where the team went.

I was part of a rapid deployment unit called " mobile units" , that were again broke up into smaller detachments, usually 4 man teams..we went here and there for a few days all the time. We trained all over the place, including SE Asia . I was stationed at Subic Bay in the Phillippines, forward deployed to a place called Diego Garcia.

The US closed its Phillipine basesin 92, and I went to san diego , then ended my enlistment in the Florida keys attached to the USS Taurus PHM-3 . That was a hydrofoil that was used in LEO ( law enforcement ops) chading drug boats around south florida.

Sometimes i was shipboard, sometimes i was on land, but never for very long in any one place. It was nearly the perfect duty for a guy like me.
 
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jbiggs said:
Your link doesn't show the data you gave?

It does show latest polls though...

0410GEN.GIF


The latest ones still look good for W.

Uh, thats because you need to click on "Who won debate #1?" It is a polling site there are hundreds of polls on that site you need to look further then the front page.
 
Damn, some of you really are clueless when it comes down to it. OBL may be the leader, but he is not the primary threat. If you kill him, his people will definately retaliate and cause even MORE issues than before. You think that all the terrorists in the US have been taken care of? There are probably thousands still around, and more are added each day.
...As far as Kerry cheating, it's not proven yet. How come no one I speak to knows about it? If it was SUCH a huge thing, it would have been all over the news, all over the papers, and it would have ruined Kerry.
...Bush speaks like an uneducated fool, and that makes him more like the common person, so he's a good president? Okay, first off... the common man does not benefit from the views or policies the republicans implement. Most of these hardcore bush supporters are from middle america, who were raised on the idea that war is necessary and right, and also raised with no idea of how the economy really works.
...I really don't know what else there is to say... most of you just repeat what you heard in the papers, and don't investigate what's really going on. If you would pay attention to ALL the issues, and controversy, you'd get a better grasp that Bush is not the man for the job at this present time.
 
Quasimoto said:
BOB, i missed you man..Where you been ?
Hey bro! I went tropical for a week. Sun, sand, gorgeous weather, and a dive off one of the healthiest reefs in the world. Specatacular!
 
black0ut said:
...I really don't know what else there is to say... most of you just repeat what you heard in the papers, and don't investigate what's really going on. If you would pay attention to ALL the issues, and controversy, you'd get a better grasp that Bush is not the man for the job at this present time.

You believe everything you read?
 
Kayz said:
National polls don't mean shit....it will come down to Ohio, Florida, Pennslvania, and Michingan.

I think it is weird that Kerry has lost his 22 point lead in NJ. He is gonna lose Minnesota too......both of which Gore carried.
The problem for Bush in 2 of the key 4 states (Michigan and Florida) had a record number of voters registered. If even 60% of the expected turnout votes in these 2 states Kerry will pull both.We very well could have a reversal of last year and have Bush win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote and the overall election.
 
jbiggs said:
You believe everything you read?
You're proving my point.. i'm criticizing people for believing everything they read... i dont believe everything I read. I speak with friends of mine who work in DC, I read articles from different states... i speak with local office holders. I do read the papers, and internet articles, but those are usually misconstrude
 
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