Dileucine experiences?

[sionnach]

That's the science behind my cycle lol

What I said was the truth, but I was being (what I thought was very obviously) facetious.

By weight, they're basically the same. Just hit your protein minimum every day and you'll be fine. And stop buying expensive supps on BezosMart.

 

[Earthworm Jim]

Same. But according to multiple studies dileucine does offer a 60% improvement over leucine. Look guys you can argue with me but not one of you has argued with the studies yet. And as I recall, the people in the studies were experienced lifters, but I haven't gone back this morning to double check. So those who claim they were inexperienced soy boys probably didn't take time to actually read the studies

 

[sionnach]

the studies

Did you link any?

 

[Bandern]

Jay Cutler could’ve won a fifth Olympia but he didn’t know about Dyson leucine or whatever. Sad face emoji!

 

[Earthworm Jim]

Did you link any

Yes, first post, bottom of the website, there are 6. Before I bought it I went through and read the studies myself and like I say my next day pumps were massive. I know it's anecdotal but I have decades of working out and this stuff appears to have increased my muscle growth with noticeable visibility. I really think it's a marvel and eventually it will become a staple for every lifter

 

[BamaCrazy]

Same. But according to multiple studies dileucine does offer a 60% improvement over leucine. Look guys you can argue with me but not one of you has argued with the studies yet. And as I recall, the people in the studies were experienced lifters, but I haven't gone back this morning to double check. So those who claim they were inexperienced soy boys probably didn't take time to actually read the studies

You didn’t link to a study. You linked to the website that is trying to sell you something. And this might comes as a surprise to you but they can say whatever they want about a supplement as long as they state on the bottle these claims have not been FDA approved.

 

[Bandern]

Yes, first post, bottom of the website, there are 6. Before I bought it I went through and read the studies myself and like I say my next day pumps were massive. I know it's anecdotal but I have decades of working out and this stuff appears to have increased my muscle growth with noticeable visibility. I really think it's a marvel and eventually it will become a staple for every lifter

Do you think it may have anything to with the fact that you just started your first cycle of a bunch of test and tren or is that unrelated?

 

[BamaCrazy]

The last study at the bottom states:

I have read the journal’s policy and the authors of this manuscript have the following competing interests: M.P and R.J are principals of Ingenious Ingredients, L.P., the sponsor of the study, and inventors of numerous patent applications for the use of dileucine but have not been involved in data collection or analysis.

Someone who stands to profit off of these claims funded a study that concluded exactly what they wanted.

 

[benfrankparkway]

As a fan and user of natural performance enhancing supplements, I am curious of anything that comes to market and would hope as science improves more natural products would come to market that have real results.

Dileucine while it I do believe the study done on it and for the "science" it seems great as not many natural products fair well. The study shows overall strength increase and increase in leg press.

That being said, as with all natural anabolic supplements, its minutia as these small strength increase, I doubt would make any difference. Do you believe adding 80lbs to your leg press would result into measurable/noticeable muscle gain. Maybe if you took it for year straight and never wavered on training you may see result.

Then you get down to price... you don't get much bang for the buck. If I were rich perhaps, I would take it as a staple supplement, but for the little it works, may not be worth me unscrewing lid on a bottle and swallowing.

 

[Earthworm Jim]

Do you think it may have anything to with the fact that you just started your first cycle of a bunch of test and tren or is that unrelated?

I was natty when I used it

 

[Bandern]

I was natty when I used it

You work for the Mark Bell Supplement Industrial Complex. You sleep gently nestled in his tooth gap.

 

[Earthworm Jim]

As a fan and user of natural performance enhancing supplements, I am curious of anything that comes to market and would hope as science improves more natural products would come to market that have real results.

Dileucine while it I do believe the study done on it and for the "science" it seems great as not many natural products fair well. The study shows overall strength increase and increase in leg press.

That being said, as with all natural anabolic supplements, its minutia as these small strength increase, I doubt would make any difference. Do you believe adding 80lbs to your leg press would result into measurable/noticeable muscle gain. Maybe if you took it for year straight and never wavered on training you may see result.

Then you get down to price... you don't get much bang for the buck. If I were rich perhaps, I would take it as a staple supplement, but for the little it works, may not be worth me unscrewing lid on a bottle and swallowing.

Same here. That's why I only took my 30 day supply on days I worked out. I'm interested in being a guinea pig for this again in the future.

Thanks for the responses everybody. I've got to get to work

 

[eery]

How does your diet look? i doubt you'd notice is a difference from this supplement vs ingesting 300-400g protein a day from quality protein sources with sufficient EAAs in them.

 

[AlexDavis43]

What I said was the truth, but I was being (what I thought was very obviously) facetious.

By weight, they're basically the same. Just hit your protein minimum every day and you'll be fine. And stop buying expensive supps on BezosMart.

Not necessarily: some dipeptides are absorbed better than the constituent amino acids; for example, alanine-glutamine gets more glutamine in the blood than glutamine alone. Could apply to dileucine as well.

But you know how it goes: any studies on a new ingredient like this are typically funded & run by the manufacturer, negative results don't get published, sketchy peer review, etc., etc.

 

[sionnach]

I assumed we were talking post-absorption utilization, everybody's guts are different, but sure.

 

[AlexDavis43]

It doesn't matter but for anyone interested in a learning moment:

I assumed we were talking post-absorption utilization, everybody's guts are different, but sure.

Weird assumption but still wrong

And it's not about everybody's unique guts; some dipeptides use specific transporters that are not utilized by the individual amino acids, leading to more rapid increase in blood levels

Leucine is an essential amino acid (EAA). If your diet is good, you're already ingesting plenty.

Dileucine is...wait for it...two leucines stuck together. Molecule per molecule, it's twice as effective! Science!

The point is that 1 dileucine would be more effective than 2 leucines

It's not molecule per molecule, no one doses like that; it's gram for gram, like in the study where 2 grams of dileucine were compared to 2 grams of leucine -- it's the same number of molecules of leucine in both groups but having 2 leucine molecules "stuck together" is theoretically superior to 2 leucines that aren't stuck together

But like I said, it doesn't matter. We have waay more effective options available for significantly cheaper.

 

[sionnach]

It's not molecule per molecule, no one doses like that; it's gram for gram,

Yeah no shit

 

[dontyellmepls]

Waste of money.