Disappointed with tren E

[6foot10]

After reading so many good things about the stuff I have to admitt that Im a little disappointed with the results. The only positive thing about it is that the sides has been minimal, it gave me some acne on my back and shoulders.
Ive been on 350-400mg/week of tren E and the same amount of test E for 7 weeks and Ive gained 10lbs so far (some of it is probobly water). The fat percentage looks the same.
Ive been eating very clean so the diet havent been the bulking type. But the thing is that my last cycle, wich consisted of only 30mg (15*2) of winny per day, gave me more pump, vascularity and STRENGTH, and that on a lower calorie intake.
Maybe my body just respond better to winny than tren.

 

[Finisher]

Where did you get your Tren E?

Finisher

 

[Finisher]

bro I am not happy with my ten e results either.
hate that shit actually. never doing another cycle of it again.

It's definately not for everyone....... Sometimes the sides make it an ineffective gear.

Finisher

 

[6foot10]

Where did you get your Tren E?

Finisher

I bought it in powder form from one of the powder sellers in classified, but I dont want to name names because maybe the problem is that I just respond bad to tren. I cant compare to any other tren because Ive only tried it once before (acetate) and had to stop after only 2 weeks due to extreme coughing attacks.

 

[pgjy]

bro I am not happy with my ten e results either.
hate that shit actually. never doing another cycle of it again.

why exo...I have 20ml of tren e. and was going to use it in my next
cycle in Oct.

what were your experiences w/ tren e.?

 

[MaxRep]

I bought it in powder form from one of the powder sellers in classified, QUOTE]

I assume you then made it up into an injectable, just curious what concentration did you make and what percentages did you use of BA and BB?

I'm also wondering what you mean by 350-400? Your mg/week isn't something that would ordinarily fluctuate.

Even with an equal amount of test, if you're over 200 pounds, that's a low dose cycle and results would be moderate.

The last thing to remember is earlier cycles are often better simply because you start from a lower bodyweight. The more you gain, the harder it is to continue to gain and gains always slow down as your bodyweight increases. This is why beginners often experience huge gains even when they don't train or eat optimally. Someone starting at 150 pounds often can't help but gain 20-30 pounds on a cycle no matter how they train as long as the calories are reasonably high.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[pgjy]

thanks exo...


max...I have a question for you...I wil pm you

 

[micro]

Dam that sucks, I use Zencall's and loved it. I didnt even gain 10lbs because I took it while I was alread on cycle but I gain around 6lbs and lost bodyfat and looked awesome and was strong as hell, well for me.

 

[dzl66]

surprising results from such a powerful compund. ??

 

[ENDRO]

[Been on the Tren-E five weeks now and have put on 6 LBS and lost an inch in the waist. The strength gains are unreal my only limit is the fear of hurting myself, even when the weights feels real heavy I find I can still lift more.
The only sides I have had was trouble breathing when I first started so I lowered the dose and slowly increased it intill I got to 500 mg a week now no sides at all. From my personal exp this is one of the best A.S I have ever used.

 

[micro]

[Been on the Tren-E five weeks now and have put on 6 LBS and lost an inch in the waist. The strength gains are unreal my only limit is the fear of hurting myself, even when the weights feels real heavy I find I can still lift more.
The only sides I have had was trouble breathing when I first started so I lowered the dose and slowly increased it intill I got to 500 mg a week now no sides at all. From my personal exp this is one of the best A.S I have ever used.

That's exactly the results I got.

I was also doing 500mg wk

 

[6foot10]

I bought it in powder form from one of the powder sellers in classified, QUOTE]

I assume you then made it up into an injectable, just curious what concentration did you make and what percentages did you use of BA and BB?

I'm also wondering what you mean by 350-400? Your mg/week isn't something that would ordinarily fluctuate.

Even with an equal amount of test, if you're over 200 pounds, that's a low dose cycle and results would be moderate.

The last thing to remember is earlier cycles are often better simply because you start from a lower bodyweight. The more you gain, the harder it is to continue to gain and gains always slow down as your bodyweight increases. This is why beginners often experience huge gains even when they don't train or eat optimally. Someone starting at 150 pounds often can't help but gain 20-30 pounds on a cycle no matter how they train as long as the calories are reasonably high.

Good luck,
MaxRep

I made it up myself, it was a mix of 150mg tren and 150mg test per ml with 5% ba only. The reason for the 350-400 is that when I draw it from the vial 2 times a week I usualy ended up with 1.1-1.2 ml in the syringe.
Im 250lbs and have done a few cycles before so the dose might be too low, but the thing is that I responded soo much better from the winny. Maybe it was because of the longer brake I had before the winny only cycle.
I have 40ml of the blend left and will up the dose next cycle in january.
I have experienced a little shortness of breath, but I thought that was from the ba.

 

[MaxRep]

Several things come to mind.
First, using a midpoint of your 1.1-1.2 2x's/week of 1.15 2x's/week equals 345mg/week each of tren and test. For someone your height and weight, that's really not enough. If your cycle is ongoing and continuing, I would bump it up to 1.5ml 2x's/week which is what I would consider a minimum (450mg/wk each tren and test) for someone your size.

Second, remember, the winstrol takes effect immediately while tren e and test e take 2-4 weeks for their effects to be fully noticed.

Last, look at all the other variables because training style, diet and rest will all play a big part in your response to any given AAS cycle.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[6foot10]

Several things come to mind.
First, using a midpoint of your 1.1-1.2 2x's/week of 1.15 2x's/week equals 345mg/week each of tren and test. For someone your height and weight, that's really not enough. If your cycle is ongoing and continuing, I would bump it up to 1.5ml 2x's/week which is what I would consider a minimum (450mg/wk each tren and test) for someone your size.

Second, remember, the winstrol takes effect immediately while tren e and test e take 2-4 weeks for their effects to be fully noticed.

Last, look at all the other variables because training style, diet and rest will all play a big part in your response to any given AAS cycle.

Good luck,
MaxRep

I will cut this cycle short now because the last week Ive managed to stress my right flexor carpi radialis muscle (I think) and cant do some exercises properly. But I will follow your advice and increase the dose to 450 or maybe 600mg a week next cycle.
Thanks for the input.

 

[Deacon]

Several things come to mind.
First, using a midpoint of your 1.1-1.2 2x's/week of 1.15 2x's/week equals 345mg/week each of tren and test. For someone your height and weight, that's really not enough. If your cycle is ongoing and continuing, I would bump it up to 1.5ml 2x's/week which is what I would consider a minimum (450mg/wk each tren and test) for someone your size.

Second, remember, the winstrol takes effect immediately while tren e and test e take 2-4 weeks for their effects to be fully noticed.

Last, look at all the other variables because training style, diet and rest will all play a big part in your response to any given AAS cycle.

Good luck,
MaxRep

I agree with what Max has said - I would tend to advise you that the dose was to low for your size and also perhaps your training needs to be looked at as well as your diet.
Eating clean while on tren e is sometimes bad - because of the amount of carbs and starches needed to gain weight - if you are looking for weight gain you have to allow yourself to eat dirtier than normal - hard to do I know but calories are going to be needed bro

also with tren e I wouold always run the test at least 100 mgs higher than the tren.

 

[madman]

An average of only 50mg/day of Tren E? Not enough; I'm using 500mg/week with 1g of test and loving it.

 

[6foot10]

An average of only 50mg/day of Tren E? Not enough; I'm using 500mg/week with 1g of test and loving it.

I gonna increase the tren dose next time, but I wont over do the test. I hate the moonface I get on high doses of test. This last cycle I did the same amount of test as I did tren, just to keep my sexdrive up and that worked perfectly.

 

[Snowblind]

An average of only 50mg/day of Tren E? Not enough; I'm using 500mg/week with 1g of test and loving it.

That's exactly what my next cycle will look like come next week.... only my test dose is higher......I'm expecting good results from this stack.


How many weeks in are you, Madman?

 

[graybass]

6,10,
The reason you get moonface is from too much water retention. With any good size cycle you've got to run nolva with it.
I'm on madmans exact cycle. Not one drop of water on my body. In my 5th week, I gained about 10lbs so far, and look like I lost 20lbs of fat.
With 500mg of Tren E. EW, I'd never run the Test below 750mg EW.
I'm a former competing power lifter, and I never had big arms. Everyone in my gym keeps asking what the hell I did for my arms. How did I gain so much size. (and at my age!)
I've been cycling for twenty years, and the Tren was like magic for me!
(All Zencal products, a little bump for EA!)

That Old Graybass

 

[madman]

That's exactly what my next cycle will look like come next week.... only my test dose is higher......I'm expecting good results from this stack.

How many weeks in are you, Madman?

Only 4 weeks in..........20lbs up in body weight since I knew that question was coming next. All lifts are up real nice too.

I'm also on Humalog and HGH just so you know. I will be adding in a Test Base/Prop mix at the end and 40mg Var and 50mg of winny ED for three weeks to allow the Enanthate to clear out and then wait one week after stopping the Base/Prop to start PCT.

GB yeah it's a good cycle old man. I also noticed I'm not holding much water if any.