Dnp + aas

[militarypress]

I am an experienced user of DNP. After running many cycles with it I feel as though I know how my body reacts to the compound very well. I have a high tolerance and can run 750mg/day of crystal whilst living normally. I run 250mg near enough all of the time as I can eat what I want at this dose and maintain/lose a little BF and eat normally without really dieting. After a heavy strength cycle I run a high dose 750mg or if I don't have to be social, 1g per day to remove the fat gain quickly. I am on test @ TRT dosage indefinitely due to secondary hypogonadism and have been since 18.

I usually just run dbol or tbol 30mg/day along with it to prevent LBM loss. This works well. How much/which AAS orals would work best to prevent catabolism with the least impact on my kidneys, liver, lipids during a post bulk blitz? My renal profile is ok but not as good as before starting TRT and while still ok while on all oral AAS I have tried would like to pay more attention to my kidney health (already supplementing with cranberry extract) as values are not as good as pre AAS.

(DNP isn't bad for your kidneys liver etc over the long term is it?)

what is the healthiest dose of and which oral while running long low dose 250mg to gain strength while losing a small amount of BF each week? I BLOW UP in with muscle bulk when I eat loads and especially with AAS without corresponding strength gain. This would be good for a BBer but I am first and foremost a gymnast and I like to power and olympic lift on top of this I and just add a few BB sets to my ring work and strength conditioning because which girl don't like big bis right?

Would tren or deca or another injectable be a better option for my kidneys? I am paranoid about my kidneys because my Dad and his dad both had kidney problems. I get checked regularly but yeah basically I want to take an AAS for lean gains/anticatabolic properties on top of low dose test that will make me less paranoid about my kidneys.

 

[Samue]

You are going to die young.

 

[jasthace]

Honestly man, If you are so concerned about your kidneys and want to get lean gains.Get a proper diet ,instead of wanting to dump the job on AAS. and DNP.You say you don't diet you just eat "normal",Get with the programme please.Get some self discipline and self control over what you put down your neck.Get your shit together & truely stop fucking around.

 

[militarypress]

You are going to die young.

Thanks for this constructive comment based on the plethora of long term DNP usage research you also presented to back up the claim.

As I hope most users can, I can diet well to cut or bulk without AAS and DNP. Gaining lean mass or recomping without AAS requires a lot of attention to calorie cycling eating more kcals around training to improve partitioning of calories; the P ratio and is not unlike many believe attained by simply "eating clean." I meet with clients on a day to day basis and often have to go to lunches/dinners making this already cumbersome, slow process a nightmare.

Anyway I don't care to argue on internet forums. To restate my question in a way were I actually get a useful response and not flamed:

what is a good oral or injectable AAS to stack with TRT dosage test that will be a good anti-catabolic while on DNP and has the least effect on health and in particular kidneys?

 

[Samue]

Your on TRT, you depend on DNP to lose fat, and you are worried about your kidneys?
Get the fuck out of here, eithier be dedicated to the sport of bodybuilding and use AAS or don't use it at all.
I hope none of you guys give this guy an answer to his question, he is just going to fuck himself up worse.

 

[Fierro Nights]

His health is his choice alone, just answer his questions if you can answer them. It would be better if he gets an answer to help with his PERSONAL goals rather then him trying something else based on advice from someone less experienced. No one asks questions to be judged, if hes old enough to buy the stuff and has been using it for a while, then hes good to go.

As far as the kidney issue, maybe you should look into more specifically what issues your family line has had with the kidneys an common exposures to substances or perhaps your father simply followed the same life style that his dad did which indirectly lead to kidney problems. Look into the specifics to avoid the problems.

 

[militarypress]

My low T was idiopathic; no PH or juice usage prior to diagnosis.

My Dad has and still does have a problem with drink so I could put it down to that. I drink maybe once/twice a year since I was diagnosed as low so there's no problem there. I don't have a problem with my renal function as such but the levels are not as good as pre AAS use. I think the best course of action would be to stay clean of everything, caffeine etc also, up water and see if it improves to where they were then after a while add in compounds to see how it effects renal values.

As far as using a compound after this I think I will just start with test prop and an AI and assess from there. Thank you for your response.

 

[Fierro Nights]

i know this threads a bit old, but after one and off with DNP, and now a cycle, iv had great results using aas with the DNP, im using low dose DNP 200mg/day and bump it up to burn out on the weekends which is my rest period from working out, iv been gaining weight and great strength gains, fast recovery time and lost another inch off my waist. starting to really get more vascular as BF% drops.

Diet is super clean as the DNP side effect has taken away my ability to taste food so to me theres no point in adding any fats/salts or eating tasty food. So iv been eating chicken, eggs and tofu with tuna an egg here an there, lots of veggies, and 4-5 protein shakes a day with a 50/50 mix of syntha-6 and casein protein with low fat milk or water. taking cjc with dac 2x week, and hex each night for the past 3 weeks, another week till break period.

 

[Fierro Nights]

i also wanted to add, before i did the DNP and AAS i read post after post of people saying youll be too tired to work out, you wont make gains, blah blah blah.

Dont think negative about it, if your going to use DNP dont use it to the point to where your completly burnt out, just low dose to burn off what your body doesnt use. And put your mind to your goal. If you have the right mind set, only you will truly know if you put effort in the gym or not. You can make an excuse and say you didnt make progress because of DNP, but when you throw down your towel and walk out of the gym, only YOU will know if you where honest to YOURSELF and made every rep count.