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Cameron wallace said:
Your correct, that's what I'm referring to is gains. Not trt. I'm sure 300 is amazing dose for that. And yes it's pretty much impossible to build a "tolerance" to hormones. If so your body would most likely increase your natural T as we age instead of decrease. Unless an underlying medical condition. But yea your right I should have been clear as to what I was referring to lol
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You are still wrong, I will blast 1g of test come down to 200mg and still grow on my cruise. You don't build a tolerance to testosterone, maybe medication or something like that but not test no matter the amount.
 
Same thing for guys that blasted test from say 18 to 28. When they get put on trt they get put on the 200mg or less just like everyone else. People also think just because they are bigger than others they need more mg, also not true with aas.
 
Primordial949 said:
You're correct. You either stay on TRT indefinitely and continue to have high normal test levels, or you come off it and your test levels go right back in the gutter and you feel like shit again. You don't build a tolerance and become immune to test. True, guys who do cycles may need to increase their dose to experience more gains, but they don't build a tolerance and/or immunity to test. There will always be a benefit to injecting test because it will increase your test levels. The whole point of TRT is to feel good so staying on indefinitely is the approach. TRT isn't for guys who have high test; it's for guys like me (40) whose test levels are in the gutter otherwise. I know guys on TRT who embrace a cruise/blast protocol where their base test is 200mg of cypionate, which they stay on I definitely and then every 8 weeks they add 300mg of propionate to the mix and they get fantastic results. Again, 500mg of test per week is really the minimum to produce an appreciable anabolic effect.
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The reason people might need to increase after blasting for so long is because your body is only going to do so much even with aas. That's why bodybuilders turn to gh insulin and other drugs, it has nothing to do with you body building a tolerance for it.

I know your not saying that to be true, I just don't want people seeing this thread thinking oh I have done 2 cycles my body had built a tolerance to it and then they run 3g's of test a week.
 
achilles87 said:
The reason people might need to increase after blasting for so long is because your body is only going to do so much even with aas. That's why bodybuilders turn to gh insulin and other drugs, it has nothing to do with you body building a tolerance for it.

I know your not saying that to be true, I just don't want people seeing this thread thinking oh I have done 2 cycles my body had built a tolerance to it and then they run 3g's of test a week.
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You're correct. You're also correct in that I disagree with building a tolerance to testosterone claim. Honestly, I think 500mg of straight test per week is a very decent dose that will yield appreciable results provided the user does everything else right (diet, training, adequate sleep, etc). Also, 500mg is a very safe dose to run. I agree with you - we don't want this notion of tolerance to incite guys to immediately jump from running a conservative cycle to 3 grams per week! That, in my opinion, is a recipe for disaster!
 
Cameron wallace said:
Your correct, that's what I'm referring to is gains. Not trt. I'm sure 300 is amazing dose for that. And yes it's pretty much impossible to build a "tolerance" to hormones. If so your body would most likely increase your natural T as we age instead of decrease. Unless an underlying medical condition. But yea your right I should have been clear as to what I was referring to lol
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No worries bro! It would be arrogant for me to claim I have all the answers. My knowledge base is derived from personal experience, research and application and speaking with others about their experiences. Honestly, there isn't one universal prescription for every man - we are all individuals and so we have to experiment and identify what works for us as individuals. Generally speaking, however, guys don't typically blow up on TRT doses (150-300mg range). I'm on 300mg per week right now and I feel amazing, but I look the same. I've been lifting hard and heavy for decades. I'm neither bigger nor stronger since starting TRT, but again, I have NEVER felt better and at age 40 bro, that is worth gold! As soon as I identify a reputable UGL source, I will add 200mg of test to my weekly TRT protocol and blast for 8 weeks throughout the year.
 
achilles87 said:
You are still wrong, I will blast 1g of test come down to 200mg and still grow on my cruise. You don't build a tolerance to testosterone, maybe medication or something like that but not test no matter the amount.
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Judging from the picture, I'm assuming it's you, you obviously know what you are doing and have your training and diet locked down! You are 100% right - you don't build a tolerance to a hormone that your body produces. People forget that test is a bio-identical hormone. You inject it and your test levels will increase.
 
Primordial949 said:
Judging from the picture, I'm assuming it's you, you obviously know what you are doing and have your training and diet locked down! You are 100% right - you don't build a tolerance to a hormone that your body produces. People forget that test is a bio-identical hormone. You inject it and your test levels will increase.
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Thanks man yes that is me, I was 220 in that picture and now at 235-237.

Like I said I just don't want people reading the tolerance thing and think they need to keep going up on their mg. I don't know it all either heck I learn stuff everyday lol, I just know if a body built a tolerance for a hormone over time it would just stop working, that's just not how it works no matter the mg. I see a lot of new people claiming they read something so when someone tells them different they are wrong, I'm just trying to look out for others.
 
achilles87 said:
Thanks man yes that is me, I was 220 in that picture and now at 235-237.

Like I said I just don't want people reading the tolerance thing and think they need to keep going up on their mg. I don't know it all either heck I learn stuff everyday lol, I just know if a body built a tolerance for a hormone over time it would just stop working, that's just not how it works no matter the mg. I see a lot of new people claiming they read something so when someone tells them different they are wrong, I'm just trying to look out for others.
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I already corrected what I said earlier.
 
All I ever run is 500mg sus and dbol kick. 12 weeks always make gains always recover good. But everyone's different everyone reacts differently my cousin runs 400 E with a dbol kick for his off season bulk and always makes good gains. Everyone's androgen receptors are different and their diet training history and knowledge is key. You can blast and cruise all you want if your diet is garbage your results are gonna be the same. I'm not tossing around "tolerance" I misspoke (typed) sensitive receptors respond at low doses. Some make gains at 400 some at 600.
 
achilles87 said:
You are still wrong, I will blast 1g of test come down to 200mg and still grow on my cruise. You don't build a tolerance to testosterone, maybe medication or something like that but not test no matter the amount.
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I can see you growing on the blast. Not a 200mg cruise. Sorry
 
Cameron wallace said:
I can see you growing on the blast. Not a 200mg cruise. Sorry
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So your saying I'm lying? Tell me why I gain when I cruise, you are still wrong man. Say you run a cycle of test and tren and you go back to trt test, it will take you longer to recover due to the tren being stronger than test but you still recover and will still continue to grow. It's a simple fact, yes people are different and react differently to different mg but what you said is wrong. Also to question my own gains is a little off the wall, I'm sorry what you said is wrong but do not question what I say about myself. I have no need to impress or lie I just tell it how it is.
 
achilles87 said:
So your saying I'm lying? Tell me why I gain when I cruise, you are still wrong man. Say you run a cycle of test and tren and you go back to trt test, it will take you longer to recover due to the tren being stronger than test but you still recover and will still continue to grow. It's a simple fact, yes people are different and react differently to different mg but what you said is wrong. Also to question my own gains is a little off the wall, I'm sorry what you said is wrong but do not question what I say about myself. I have no need to impress or lie I just tell it how it is.
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If you run tren with test then yea it will tren fights for receptors. I never said your lying don't take it personal. Just said I can growth on blast not a 200 cruise. But obviously to you everyone is wrong and your right so I'm sorry for being stupid lol
 
Cameron wallace said:
I can see you growing on the blast. Not a 200mg cruise. Sorry
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This is what you said after I said I can grow on a 200mg cruise, so that's you saying I'm wrong. Do some more google searching man and figure out the difference of what you are trying to say.

My point is you don't build a tolerance to testosterone. Stick around man, you will learn a thing or two.
 
achilles87 said:
This is what you said after I said I can grow on a 200mg cruise, so that's you saying I'm wrong. Do some more google searching man and figure out the difference of what you are trying to say.

My point is you don't build a tolerance to testosterone. Stick around man, you will learn a thing or two.
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I already said you don't build a tolerance
 
Cameron wallace said:
I can see you growing on the blast. Not a 200mg cruise. Sorry
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I'll quote this again just to point out again, you said "I can see YOU growing on a blast, not a 200mg cruise". You didn't say I can grow on a blast not a 200mg cruise, so again you said my statement about myself is wrong.
 
I just said I don't see it. Not that your lying stop being so defensive and assuming I'm accusing you of anything. I never called you a liar.
 
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