Do we need to add TMG to the Indolplex/DIM.

[pmgamer18]

Doing DIM to keep E2 down Dr. John feels you need to add TMG with the DIM here is what he said
"We should remember that DIM also increases the level of the dangerous 4-OHE as well as improving 2-OHE/16-alpha-OHE. Thus it should not be taken without DMG, or preferably TMG, to wash the 4-OHE downstream in its metabolic pathway. Folic acid helps as well."
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I am looking into this and there is not much about it. I have this link on "The Steroid Tree" can anyone figure this out.
http://www.ceri.com/q_v7n2q3.htm
This link gives a map on how DIM works.
http://www.dimfaq.com/site/diagram.htm
I came across this conversation with SWALE Dr. John.
http://tinyurl.com/dacn2
I am at a loss as to what the new OTC product was. Read this and see what you think. The more I look into this the more my brain wants a break from it it is way over my head. So if someone can put this in laymen's terms thanks.
Phil

 

[HeadDoc]

folic acid is very easy to get. Also good for homocystein levels.

 

[SWALE]

Several studies have shown this to be true. I just hadn't hesard anyone else recommend this, so someone had to.

 

[pmgamer18]

Seeing how E2 is a problem for me and on going I am going to try TMG. Thanks.
Phil

 

[stat1951]

RE" TMG and DIM

Does anyone have any links showing the actual problem caused by DIM that requires the intake of TMG?

I'm having problems finding those links.

Also, if taking the TMG for an anti-homocysteine purpose, it appears that the effective dosage level is 5 grams daily. (Does that what DIM does, increase homocysteine levels... if not, then just what is it - and what is an effective dose of TMG???)

http://www.netrition.com/cgi/healthnotes.cgi?ContentID=1029002
Betaine (trimethylglycine) (6 grams per day) and choline (2 grams per day) have each been shown to lower homocysteine levels.43 44
43. Wilcken DEL, Wilcken B, Dudman NPB, Tyrrell PA. Homocystinuriathe effects of betaine in the treatment of patients not responsive to pyridoxine. N Engl J Med 1983;309:44853.
44. Jancin B. Amino acid defect causes 20% of atherosclerosis in CHD. Family Pract News 1994;Oct 15:7.


Larry