Doc offered me ghrp-2 or ghrp-6 - what works best?

[penche]

A compound pharmacy was going to produce ghrp 6 for my friend. He is not experienced with peptides so he never picked it up. A NP gave him the script. However I don't think the compound pharmacy could produce TB500 or can they....

Interesting subject

 

[Dr JIM]

Anyone know if pharm grade ghrp differs from research? Is there even such a thing as pharm grade peptides? Anyway give it a shot it's not going to hurt unless there's a high co pay then it may not be worth it....

Pharm grade? WTF is that? I ask bc w few exceptions the GH secretagogues, GH releasing peptides or other GH releasing analogues are SUPPLEMENTS and no script is needed.

Furthermore although some of these "PEPS" have been shown to increase endogenous GH secretion, a doubling of one's baseline GH level is their plateau!

Now compare that PEP GH level change, to that which is required for anabolism and those using this junk are pissing in the wind.

Oh and perhaps I should mention bc of the short lived pulsatile effect of most secretagogues few increase serum IGF levels.

IMO if one desires the benefits of GH people need to stop wasting their money on these possibly, maybe, might could, anecdotal opinions or blog recommended PEPs and buy legit GH!

 

[SDbronco]

Pharm grade? WTF is that? I ask bc w few exceptions the GH secretagogues, GH releasing peptides or other GH releasing analogues are SUPPLEMENTS and no script is needed.

Furthermore although some of these "PEPS" have been shown to increase endogenous GH secretion, a doubling of one's baseline GH level is their plateau!

Now compare that PEP GH level change, to that which is required for anabolism and those using this junk are pissing in the wind.

Oh and perhaps I should mention bc of the short lived pulsatile effect of most secretagogues few increase serum IGF levels.

IMO if one desires the benefits of GH people need to stop wasting their money on these possibly, maybe, might could, anecdotal opinions or blog recommended PEPs and buy legit GH!

I'm not challenging you by any means (and here goes) but how do you know that THESE peptides or any PEPs in general can only boost your Natty levels 2x the baseline?

I ask because common since tells me that humans naturally grow on normal levels of GH without supplementing anything. Of course tons of other hormones play a role but it wouldn't be able to do this without hGH in the mix

 

[SDbronco]

Sense*

 

[Dr JIM]

I'm not challenging you by any means (and here goes) but how do you know that THESE peptides or any PEPs in general can only boost your Natty levels 2x the baseline?

I ask because common since tells me that humans naturally grow on normal levels of GH without supplementing anything. Of course tons of other hormones play a role but it wouldn't be able to do this without hGH in the mix

Perhaps you should look at the research (what little is out there on these SUPPLEMENTS) that IS OUT THERE, as I have done. Some of which has been posted on Meso itself.

Mnay of you fellas are such suckers, all that is required is for some company, bro, shill to comments or post some impressive winner add about how their drug, that costs 200 bucks a month to achieve gains, and you buy it hook line and sinker.

For those of you whom fall into that category, did you know there are plots of land on the moon awaiting buyers just like yourself!

 

[Dr JIM]

so I don't know how a doc could prescribe it . title of post ..

The answer to that question is an ABSOULTE YES! That's bc a peptide is nothing more than TWO or MORE Amino Acids binding to each thru a PEPTIDE BOND! The peptide below would be classified as a tetra-peptide since FOUR amino acids are joined via a peptide bond.

Understand PEPs are registered with the FDA as SUPPLEMENTS and as such are said to have NUTRITIONAL VALUE rather than exert some type of intrinsic BIOLOGIC ACTIVITY, the latter being classified as a DRUG!

So suppose there is a FDA approved injectable PEP available in lyophilized form and the pharmacy reconstituted the product for a patient.

Sounds simple NOT. They could be risking their license, and an untold number of law suits if the product (PEP) supplied to them was in any way contaminated.

NO PHARMACY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD CONSIDER SUCH A PRACTICE IMO!
(Oh and about the only "docs" who would write a script for a supplement are thsoe who are NOT licensed physicians such as, chiropractors, homeopaths, natropaths etc

 

[Dr JIM]

I'm not challenging you by any means (and here goes) but how do you know that THESE peptides or any PEPs in general can only boost your Natty levels 2x the baseline?

I ask because common since tells me that humans naturally grow on normal levels of GH without supplementing anything. Of course tons of other hormones play a role but it wouldn't be able to do this without hGH in the mix

This tells me how unfamiliar you are with the GH literature that already exists. The fact of the matter is GH's anabolic activity is paltry when compared to AAS. (For instance the median GH/IGF level of patients with giantism is 1000 fold higher than age matched controls yet their improvement in LBM is MUCH MUCH lower on a proportional basis)

Which brings me back to why so many noobs (which is considerable on this thread alone) who have yet to understand how to cycle AAS effectively, are looking at GH or it's analogues/secretagogues as a reasonable substitute.

And some say ignorance is bliss, NOT!

 

[grey]

(For instance the median GH/IGF level of patients with giantism is 1000 fold higher than age matched controls yet their improvement in LBM is MUCH MUCH lower on a proportional basis)

Damn... that is a tasty factoid... thanks doc! Keeping that on in my hip pocket.

 

[Wunderpus]

What doc wouldn't prescribe GH if GH levels were deemed "too low"??

Something's off here. Either he's a quack NMD or something else is up.

 

[Iron born]

This just doesn't pass the smell test...



And don't waste your $$$ on Peps, op.