Does a lower dose equal less liver toxicity?

[Va_JJ]

I’m a female, so don’t loose your shit with the dosages. Also, I’m not a petite thing either. I’m specifically referring to Anadrol oral, 25 mg per day. If I’m running a lower dose will it be less taxing on my system? I ran a 6 week cycle and saw big strength gains. I have been off for a little over 3 weeks. I didn’t see an big sides either. My appetite was the same all the way through.

 

[Live_Evil]

Everything is dose dependent.

 

[1tank1]

Simple honest answer.....Yes.

 

[Megadick3000]

Of course. Bigger the dosage bigger the strain on the liver. Longer you use it the longer the liver is being stressed for.

 

[Rido]

You have 30 percent less liver than a male. That being said. They did a study and noticed only 100mg showed mild liver toxicity on older men that took anadrol for 3 months.


You will be fine.

I am not familiar with women's dosing of abombs. But 25 seems like alot.

 

[Live_Evil]

I am not familiar with women's dosing of abombs. But 25 seems like alot.

I had the exact same thought.

 

[Rido]

I had the exact same thought.

I guess I always thought 10% of a man's AAS dose. Unless you want virilization then more power

 

[Va_JJ]

I guess I always thought 10% of a man's AAS dose. Unless you want virilization then more power

Unless my stuff is under dosed, I did not see an virilization. I split the dose, 12.5 morning and 12.5 night. The only thing I saw was an increase in the weight I put on the bar and a bit of joint relief. I reached out in the women’s forum a while back and got no response. My dose decision was based upon the adrol profile under the steroid profile page. It stated that women can run up to 50 mg per day and only see moderate virilization. I’m taking this from an athletic perspective, weighing 200 lbs, with 25% body fat.

 

[1tank1]

Unless my stuff is under dosed, I did not see an virilization. I split the dose, 12.5 morning and 12.5 night. The only thing I saw was an increase in the weight I put on the bar and a bit of joint relief. I reached out in the women’s forum a while back and got no response. My dose decision was based upon the adrol profile under the steroid profile page. It stated that women can run up to 50 mg per day and only see moderate virilization. I’m taking this from an athletic perspective, weighing 200 lbs, with 25% body fat.

My advice to you as a woman....if you are only using oxy for athletic reasons and only for short periods then the dose you use doesn't need to be much different than the dose for a man (possibily slightly lower though just to be sensible obviously).

However, if you're using steroids regularly I would suggest significantly lower doses than a man and also seek advice from experienced women using steroids.

@BigBüsi would be a good member to talk to.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Unless my stuff is under dosed, I did not see an virilization. I split the dose, 12.5 morning and 12.5 night. The only thing I saw was an increase in the weight I put on the bar and a bit of joint relief. I reached out in the women’s forum a while back and got no response. My dose decision was based upon the adrol profile under the steroid profile page. It stated that women can run up to 50 mg per day and only see moderate virilization. I’m taking this from an athletic perspective, weighing 200 lbs, with 25% body fat.

What are your physique and workout goals?

You don't hear about many women taking anadrol, but whatever. You'll see water retention, aggression, strength.

 

[Megadick3000]

I am not familiar with women's dosing of abombs. But 25 seems like alot.

Considering shes 200lbs i guess its not. Ultimately steroid dosing should be looked at on a mg/kg of bodyweight (or lbs in this case). 25mg divided by 200lbs is 0.125mg/lbs or in KG 200lbs is about 90.7kg so the dosage she used is 0.275/kg

For reference points of medical use of oxymethelone:

Anemia Due to Deficient Red Cell Production​

1-5 mg/kg PO qDay for 3-6 months

1-2 mg/kg PO qDay usually effective

Includes acquired aplastic anemia, congenital anemia, myelofibrosis, & hypoplastic anemia due to admin of myelotoxic drugs

Off-label: HIV-associated wasting

Per medical use Anadrol is dosed considerably higher than OPs dosage and is dosed so even in females and also children, for substantially longer periods as well.

 

[Rido]

Considering shes 200lbs i guess its not. Ultimately steroid dosing should be looked at on a mg/kg of bodyweight (or lbs in this case). 25mg divided by 200lbs is 0.125mg/lbs or in KG 200lbs is about 90.7kg so the dosage she used is 0.275/kg

For reference points of medical use of oxymethelone:

Anemia Due to Deficient Red Cell Production​

1-5 mg/kg PO qDay for 3-6 months

1-2 mg/kg PO qDay usually effective

Includes acquired aplastic anemia, congenital anemia, myelofibrosis, & hypoplastic anemia due to admin of myelotoxic drugs

Off-label: HIV-associated wasting

Per medical use Anadrol is dosed considerably higher than OPs dosage and is dosed so even in females and also children, for substantially longer periods as well.

You are right. While this is true, the main goal of anadrol in our use is for strength, anavolism, and minimizing harm.

not for anemia and not as a band aid for our bone marrow suppression.

The dose that is listed is for anemia and typically the profile of these patients are cachectic patients who have a terminal disease. These patients would typically weight less than your average non oncological patient. I think it's a safe assumption, average weight of them would weigh 50kg.

Especially during the time of the original indication, these patients had a much shorter lifespan and virilization was not a concern for them. You have to take in account goals of therapy at the time.

Risks vs benefits were virilization, liver failure vs weakness, fatigue, dizziness, head trauma/bleeds from falls.

Typically this patient population has a low platelets count. A fall can result in death.


This was indicated before epogenand reblozyl was created for patients. They really had no choice.

Even the elderly men had elevated LFTs on 100mg of anadrol. makes you wonder what would happen to women.

The weight of the 100mg group was also averages to be 80kg. That means their dosing could have been as high as 400mg a day but their liver was having an impact at 25% of max dose.

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.00363.2002

 

[Canknucklehead]

I’m a female, so don’t loose your shit with the dosages. Also, I’m not a petite thing either. I’m specifically referring to Anadrol oral, 25 mg per day. If I’m running a lower dose will it be less taxing on my system? I ran a 6 week cycle and saw big strength gains. I have been off for a little over 3 weeks. I didn’t see an big sides either. My appetite was the same all the way through.

You should be fine at that dose.

Take some milk thistle and don’t drink alcohol or take NSAIDs (Tylenol/Advil).

Get blood work done if possible now that you are off. If liver values are fine, which I’m assuming they are. You can hop back on when you want. With orals, especially drol, you want to make sure you don’t tax your liver too much.

Good luck and keep us posted! @Va_JJ

 

[Rido]

You should be fine at that dose.

Take some milk thistle and don’t drink alcohol or take NSAIDs (Tylenol/Advil).

Get blood work done if possible now that you are off. If liver values are fine, which I’m assuming they are. You can hop back on when you want. With orals, especially drol, you want to make sure you don’t tax your liver too much.

Good luck and keep us posted! @Va_JJ

Just FYI
Advil doesnt run off of the liver. It's mainly kidneys

Tylenol isn't an nsaid either

 

[Va_JJ]

What are your physique and workout goals?

You don't hear about many women taking anadrol, but whatever. You'll see water retention, aggression, strength.

My goals are strictly upping my totals. I powerlift, but I’m not a bowl of jello. Everyone thinks I weigh 160-170 based upon my physique. I have ran deca and var in the past. I didn’t care for deca because sides rolled in pretty fast. Var was good when I was cutting weight, but I didn’t see the boost in strength like drol. I do concur with the water weight! If I keep my diet clean, it isn’t bad. It only gets bad when I go off diet and have a shitty cheat meal or forced to eat out because I’m away from home. Also, based upon my work schedule, it’s easier to pop pills than pin.

 

[Va_JJ]

You should be fine at that dose.

Take some milk thistle and don’t drink alcohol or take NSAIDs (Tylenol/Advil).

Get blood work done if possible now that you are off. If liver values are fine, which I’m assuming they are. You can hop back on when you want. With orals, especially drol, you want to make sure you don’t tax your liver too much.

Good luck and keep us posted! @Va_JJ

I don’t drink alcohol or use tobacco

 

[Va_JJ]

You should be fine at that dose.

Take some milk thistle and don’t drink alcohol or take NSAIDs (Tylenol/Advil).

Get blood work done if possible now that you are off. If liver values are fine, which I’m assuming they are. You can hop back on when you want. With orals, especially drol, you want to make sure you don’t tax your liver too much.

Good luck and keep us posted! @Va_JJ

I have a doc appointment tomorrow and will have him throw in a few extra tests to run. I will keep you guys posted!

 

[Va_JJ]

Thank you gentlemen for the solid info!

 

[Rido]

I have a doc appointment tomorrow and will have him throw in a few extra tests to run. I will keep you guys posted!

I would assume he would do it.

very standard test.
Comprehensive metabolic panel - checks liver/kidney
Lipid panel - check lipids which is always a concern for orals

I doubt it would boost up your red blood cell but if it would be a complete bloods count

 

[TrenTrenTren]

I don’t drink alcohol or use tobacco

No meth or anything, right?