I have used two different test e oils from two different sources at 250mg/ml and both gave me post injection soreness. Eurochemlabs and pharmacom. The hplc testing showed the product was labeled and dosed correctly. What’s funny is some of the companys products I use, deca and megastack, have had zero pip. I mean nothing like injecting water. I use eurochem labs. Two reasons. They have been around for 20+ years and I know many people on this gear without complaints. And I had hplc testing done on everything I use.... They have been pretty good on dose.
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I recently did multiple injections with non-DP gear without any issues or discomfort. I had some DP gear - again TE 250 - from another source as well and I wanted to find out if that's bad as well so I switched from the good gear.
And it was. I tried it a few days ago, quad injection. The injection itself was fine but after an hour the pain started coming. In 12 hours (before sleeping) it was quite painful. In 24h (waking up) my leg was swollen and tense, very difficult to bend it or walk on it, no redness however. I checked my fever upon waking up, it was a low grade fever just like last time. During the day fever climbed up to 39 C (102 F). Then I knew it's time for ER because if fever rose so fast it could only get worse.
In ER they tested my blood and checked my leg with ultrasound. Blood test showed that WBC was sky high and other inflammation markers were up as well. I was prescribed antibiotics and I already feel better overall but it's still extremely difficult to walk.
Whether it's allergy to EO or the gear is contaminated, it's just trash. I wanted to believe it's the EO, but then I discovered one old used vial of DP Tren-E which has exact same ingredients and I cannot remember such reactions.
And finally I'd like to say that don't ignore 'Test flu' if you think you have it. There is no such thing as 'Test flu', but there are reactions to contaminants and allergic reactions to solvents. Quality gear won't give any flu unless someone really is allergic to Test itself which is unlikely. I've read some members say "I often get test flu but I just man up and take it". I suggest going for a blood test while such flu symptoms are felt - likely it will show leukocytosis and high CRP which means you're just infecting yourself with every injection and your body borderline manages to overcome it.
I recently did multiple injections with non-DP gear without any issues or discomfort. I had some DP gear - again TE 250 - from another source as well and I wanted to find out if that's bad as well so I switched from the good gear.
And it was. I tried it a few days ago, quad injection. The injection itself was fine but after an hour the pain started coming. In 12 hours (before sleeping) it was quite painful. In 24h (waking up) my leg was swollen and tense, very difficult to bend it or walk on it, no redness however. I checked my fever upon waking up, it was a low grade fever just like last time. During the day fever climbed up to 39 C (102 F). Then I knew it's time for ER because if fever rose so fast it could only get worse.
In ER they tested my blood and checked my leg with ultrasound. Blood test showed that WBC was sky high and other inflammation markers were up as well. I was prescribed antibiotics and I already feel better overall but it's still extremely difficult to walk.
Whether it's allergy to EO or the gear is contaminated, it's just trash. I wanted to believe it's the EO, but then I discovered one old used vial of DP Tren-E which has exact same ingredients and I cannot remember such reactions.
And finally I'd like to say that don't ignore 'Test flu' if you think you have it. There is no such thing as 'Test flu', but there are reactions to contaminants and allergic reactions to solvents. Quality gear won't give any flu unless someone really is allergic to Test itself which is unlikely. I've read some members say "I often get test flu but I just man up and take it". I suggest going for a blood test while such flu symptoms are felt - likely it will show leukocytosis and high CRP which means you're just infecting yourself with every injection and your body borderline manages to overcome it.
Try your glutes! Quad shots can be problematic and pip is more common in the quads, might not even be the gear.
It definitely is the gear. I am now in hospital on IV antibiotics.
Geez. Sorry man. Never heard or knew anyone who got fucked up like that from one shot. Where did you get it ?
You still have more vials of this batch? I wold like to see one of those vials send to analyzer for testing.. i wonder how bad contaminate is..
Sorry to hear that i hope everything turns good for you .
Thanks. Yeah, I have more vials of it left which I will never touch for their intended purpose. I live in EU, no Analyzer here. But in EU we have SIMEC so I'll be sending one there in near future.
I was just released from the hospital after a few days of IV antibiotics, home treatment with antibiotics will continue. My CRP was 140 when I was admitted and that's when they said "with that number you're staying here".
My pre-injection cleaning procedures are pedantic. And even if it had been external bacteria, the amount of such bacteria is too little to cause such a rapid reaction. Considering 3 out of 3 shots of that gear were bad (and the last one especially), it has to be the gear and I would say it it has to be severely contaminated then.
I was about to buy some of dragon pharma but after reading you recent experiance ; hell no !! im passing .. have you contact your source ?
where did you get the gear??
I don't think it's necessary to name the specific source. As it turns out EU domestic Dragon Pharma is shipped directly from a single warehouse regardless of the source. The sources act just as intermediaries.
I have seen different sources have way different prices for DP EU bulk deals. Some going as low as it doesn't make sense anymore. Yet still DP will verify that those are legit sources. This makes me think that some sources are given the 'chance' to basically sell off production waste. They don't even have proper batch numbers. I noticed the batch number is the same as on a 2 year old DP vial - no way an actual batch lasts this long. And it's just not mine, these are commonly received right now.
Regarding batch numbers. Probably not an accurate labeling system at
DP vials are often greasy, labels soaked in oil (many have noted this). This probably comes from the fact that they use high EO which eats the rubber in transit. Which means there is another source of contamination due to degraded rubber.
Just crap. All I can say.
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lol ok take a look at your source! you trash a lab but not the source? Funny how all the "REAL" Dragon gear tests good on AL but you are in the ER with a major infection. Just saying, my advice to you is never do gear again!
And what did I say? All DP EU gear is shipped from a single warehouse owned by the lab and not the sources. The DP vials on AL have not been EU batches.
I have contacted DP, they confirmed this is how it is and they're sending these batches to SIMEC. They confirmed it came directly from them. Saying that I am not going to trust the reply they give and will test myself.
If you think this is an uncommon strategy for labs-sources, then many of the Pcom resellers actually act as intermediaries for Pcom factory warehouse (not if domestic).
I don't get why you get all offensive when I explained with clear reasoning.
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You shoot gear that has an oily label? IDIOT! you shoot gear that has an old lot number that is the same as one 2 years ago? BIGGER IDIOT! So you say Dragon has EU gear and AL got sent some other Dragon gear thats different but from the same company but AL says its from a European source?? Seems you are a know it all but You are a moron! Please stop using steroids you are too stupid to deal with it. Plus you already ended up in the hospital from one shot of test. Please take up another hobby for your own good, safety and our sanity.
Hey, retard, listen now.
I said the labels were oily, yes. I said it based on my vials and others'. However, the particular vial I picked did not have an oily label.
The following is not my pic, but a random recent order found on another portal. Look at the vials - they're not 'wet' from damaged glass but the stoppers instead. (as can be seen the vials on the pic are not from an EU batch, but this is to illustrate how they leak in general)
The time when AnabolicLab's DP injectable orders were made - which was Q3 2016 - there did not exist DP EU domestic. It became a thing end of 2016 / beginning of 2017. As can be seen here the lot number - Dragon Pharma Enantat 250 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab - is DPTE-01. The Test-E EU batches are in the format "TE-01-EU", "TE-02-EU" etc. This means that previously EU sources either asked DP to ship from China or the EU sources themselves had stocked up on DP gear from China. The EU batches are made in EU, different factory.
Regarding batch numbers being old. The expiration dates were fine, so I did not consider it as a danger sign. Furthermore, the same batch seems to go around in EU right now.
Using UGL gear in general is a bad idea, so I might take your advice. But really, you are the moron here. I understand that you have a hard time wrapping your head around the fact that some batches can be good and some can be bad. Maybe one day you'll understand.
This is the best board, but check out the other boards as well for blood tests. Otherwise you'll live in your bubble thinking everything is legit that one time scored good on AL.
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You are the moron who went to the hospital and got beat gear from your lame source Son! save your bullshit for another forum.Your excuses are lame at best and you sound like you never seen the inside of a real gym. Like I suggested try another hobby and dont use steroids. Save all the fake pictures and post some of your own or juts shut the fuck up. Seriously your source fucked you and you are too stupid to realize that. And there are recent labs an Dragon compounds like Aanar, drol, nd winstrol, yea I guess they make real Var but fucked you on some cheap oil. Also these are all recent tests RETARD!Hey, retard, listen now.
I said the labels were oily, yes. I said it based on my vials and others'. However, the particular vial I picked did not have an oily label.
The following is not my pic, but a random recent order found on another portal. Look at the vials - they're not 'wet' from damaged glass but the stoppers instead. (as can be seen the vials on the pic are not from an EU batch, but this is to illustrate how they leak in general)
The time when AnabolicLab's DP injectable orders were made - which was Q3 2016 - there did not exist DP EU domestic. It became a thing end of 2016 / beginning of 2017. As can be seen here the lot number - Dragon Pharma Enantat 250 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab - is DPTE-01. The Test-E EU batches are in the format "TE-01-EU", "TE-02-EU" etc. This means that previously EU sources either asked DP to ship from China or the EU sources themselves had stocked up on DP gear from China. The EU batches are made in EU, different factory.
Regarding batch numbers being old. The expiration dates were fine, so I did not consider it as a danger sign. Furthermore, the same batch seems to go around in EU right now.
Using UGL gear in general is a bad idea, so I might take your advice. But really, you are the moron here. I understand that you have a hard time wrapping your head around the fact that some batches can be good and some can be bad. Maybe one day you'll understand.
This is the best board, but check out the other boards as well for blood tests. Otherwise you'll live in your bubble thinking everything is legit that one time scored good on AL.
How fucking thick are you in your head? Do you inject there and you've become an imbecile due to the scar tissue build-up in your brain?
You argue about recent tests of their orals which have no relation to keeping vials sterile. If you want to talk dosages, they severely underdosed their EQ which was caught by AL: Dragon Pharma EQ 300 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab
Also, on threir damn vials they write how much EO they use and it's a lot. It degrades the rubber and causes leaks. Plain and simple.
You see dragon-pharma dot com on the vials right? Their website. I contacted them. They said it came directly from them and they are looking into it whatever it means. What the fuck are you still babbling about you fucking useless abortion waste?
Since you seem so happy about someone having a medical accident, I hope you catch cancer because you deserve it.
Sorry yea I guess me and everyone else got the good Dragon and you got the shit one. And if you had a brain you would know that an oily bottle means someone switched the oil you fuck tool! Your source put shit oil in a dragon bottle most likely. I have run oils 10 years old the rubber stopper is a load of horse shit for the most part. I know 100's of gear users over the years and no one ever went to the er from a shot unless they used fake gear, or a dirt needle. Try cleaning the shit and piss off your skin before you shoot up might be a hygiene issue.
Hey man I just did 2 pins and got infected with both of them. 2 ER visits and a regular hospital visit. I’m assuming the gear wasn’t sterile but I got from a different source. Am I allowed to say it on here?
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