Drogan's first 2-weeker

[Drogan]

My first cycle ever, why a 2-weeker?
1. less side effects, fast recovery
2. I'm still experimenting with the whole thing and don't know what to expect, so no long term dedication.
Don't wanna do aas forever or too often, or develop a psychological addiction...
3. It fits my training style, quick progress, 2-month training cycles with breaks, where I would get on mid cycle when most needed and quickly off with still two weeks left to continue increasing weights during pct to retain as much as possible...
4. I'm afraid to purchase bigger loads of gear, if it turns out to be bunk, I'm stuck with garbage and lost a lot of money...

Starting at 189 lb, 6'1/2'', 32 yrs old, trained 10 yrs with some long breaks.
My goal is to get bigger without gaining any fat.

A bit late with the thread as everything happens quickly and I don't have plenty of free time, so now I'm already in the middle of my cycle...

The plan was to front-load with 200 mg test p + 100 mg test suspension on day 1, 100mg test p ED days 2-9, 100mg test susp ED 10-14. AI is Adex ED 1-14 0.25mg. PCT Clomid for 2 weeks from day 15.
I'll continue in the next post...

 

[Drogan]

So, as mentioned earlier, I'm already 6 days in.
Large doses at start didn't help, and I'm very skeptical about this water suspension test. It's supposed to hit fast and hard? I haven't felt a shit. I added extra 50 mg suspension on workout days, but still no strength increase and no libido.
I skipped adex for a day to see what happens, and I think I felt a light pain in my left tit the next day. That nipple was always a bit larger than the right one. Last night I took 0.25 adex again, and no problems today.
I also woke up with a strong pump, and extra half inch on my hands (probably water)
but no strength increase, nothing out of ordinary.

 

[Drogan]

extra half inch on my hands

I meant arms

 

[Oregongearhead]

Interesting , I love how your already "midway thru my cycle" at 6 days , lol . Funny .

According To AAS expert Bill Reynolds , 2-4 week cycles are very effective using a short ester like test prop and/or tren ace .

Good luck , I'm subbed . ~ Ogh

 

[Drogan]

thanx

I love how your already "midway thru my cycle" at 6 days , lol . Funny .

The thread's gonna be history before anyone notice

According To AAS expert Bill Reynolds , 2-4 week cycles are very effective using a short ester like test prop and/or tren ace .[/QUOTE]
Bill Roberts he suggests that the recovery is much longer already when 2 weeks are exceeded though.

 

[Oregongearhead]

No do report on your experience it's very valuable . I just ended a 6 week tren ace cycle and the max size/strength was between the 2nd and 4th week . After that it was more side effects .

I might try just a 4 weeker next time and see .

 

[bigdeee973]

I'm subbed. Curious to see how this turns out. Have fun

 

[Drogan]

So far nothing, just some strong pumps.

Interesting that my first pins were not only painless but I couldn't feel anything, and the longer I'm pinning the more it hurts.

 

[Maven3]

I have done a couple of these now. From my experience it is 100% necessary to have a high dose oral in there in addition to the Test P to get the results youre looking for.

My first 2 weeker was 100mg prop ed with 40mg dbol and 20mg winny ed. Ended up with a 5 pound net gain after pct and big jump in strength.

The 2nd 2 weeker I tried was 100 mg Tren A with 40 mg prop. Results from the 2 weeks were very disappointing. No strength gain, and very slight weight gain. Because of that I decided to extend it to 6 weeks. Results in week 3 and 4 have been good, leading me to conclude tren a is not worthwhile as the main component for a 2 weeker. I believe it will work well in conjunction with high test and a high dose oral.

My next 2 week run will likely consist of prop at 150mg Ed with dbol at 50mg and anadrol at 50mg.

 

[Whoremoans]

I'm pretty interested in the concept of doing 2 week cycles. The only way I would do it would be with non estered gear though. I would probably do 75mg test suspension 2x a day 50mg tren suspension 2x a day and a strong oral. I feel like that would be the best way to do it, esters just take too much time to kick in for a 2 weeker to really be worth it IMO.

 

[Power_house90]

My first cycle ever, why a 2-weeker?
1. less side effects, fast recovery
2. I'm still experimenting with the whole thing and don't know what to expect, so no long term dedication.
Don't wanna do aas forever or too often, or develop a psychological addiction...
3. It fits my training style, quick progress, 2-month training cycles with breaks, where I would get on mid cycle when most needed and quickly off with still two weeks left to continue increasing weights during pct to retain as much as possible...
4. I'm afraid to purchase bigger loads of gear, if it turns out to be bunk, I'm stuck with garbage and lost a lot of money...

Starting at 189 lb, 6'1/2'', 32 yrs old, trained 10 yrs with some long breaks.
My goal is to get bigger without gaining any fat.

A bit late with the thread as everything happens quickly and I don't have plenty of free time, so now I'm already in the middle of my cycle...

The plan was to front-load with 200 mg test p + 100 mg test suspension on day 1, 100mg test p ED days 2-9, 100mg test susp ED 10-14. AI is Adex ED 1-14 0.25mg. PCT Clomid for 2 weeks from day 15.
I'll continue in the next post...

Hey man I respect the fact that you think that you will get something out of two weeks of using gear, but the fact is bro you aren't going to get much out of that short of a cycle! You should do at least six to eight weeks. It's your first cycle so cherish it brother! You won't have another one like it!

 

[Maven3]

I'm pretty interested in the concept of doing 2 week cycles. The only way I would do it would be with non estered gear though. I would probably do 75mg test suspension 2x a day 50mg tren suspension 2x a day and a strong oral. I feel like that would be the best way to do it, esters just take too much time to kick in for a 2 weeker to really be worth it IMO.

I think that would be perfect for a 2 week cycle. I dont have access to non estered gear unfortunately so Im limited to prop and acetate.

 

[Whoremoans]

I think that would be perfect for a 2 week cycle. I dont have access to non estered gear unfortunately so Im limited to prop and acetate.

I'm currently on prop and tren A with super DMZ 3.0 as my oral. I definitely have noticed some gains at the two week mark but to be honest I feel like I would really be cutting myself short by stopping 14 days in. I'm going to go for 6-8 weeks and really make the most of it. Not looking forward to a brutal PCT though.

 

[Whoremoans]

Also, the gear I'm using is really good shit and I'm dosing it sort of high.

 

[Drogan]

Front loading was supposed to make the gains faster, but I'm pretty sure I'm dealing with an underdosed prop and bunk suspension. And I feel lucky that I haven't bought supplies for a longer cycle, it would have bin even bigger waste.
Anyway, I finished with the prop and continue with the suspension 2x50mg ED with no expectations.
I did make some progress overall, but I progress no less than that naturally on high calories, apart from a bit higher water gain. Previous 2 months I gained 3lb of muscle and lost 8lb of fat at the same time. I'm now at 197 lb but I think no more than 3 lb is the real shit.

 

[Drogan]

I'm not gonna give up on 2-weekers yet, next time I'll back it up with some orals and tren a, and hopefully some better quality gear.
I understand the need for longer cycles, but I try to minimize sides and long term commitment, and I still naturally see gains fast.

 

[Maven3]

I'm currently on prop and tren A with super DMZ 3.0 as my oral. I definitely have noticed some gains at the two week mark but to be honest I feel like I would really be cutting myself short by stopping 14 days in. I'm going to go for 6-8 weeks and really make the most of it. Not looking forward to a brutal PCT though.

I think this is one of the biggest challenges of the 2 week protocol. If you make some decent gains, then mentally you want to keep going. If youre not happy with the gains, then you also want to keep going so as not to waste the first 2 weeks.

 

[Maven3]

I'm not gonna give up on 2-weekers yet, next time I'll back it up with some orals and tren a, and hopefully some better quality gear.
I understand the need for longer cycles, but I try to minimize sides and long term commitment, and I still naturally see gains fast.

Yeh give it another go. I really think a high dose strong oral is what you were missing. I get massive strength increases on dbol, and its fast. I wouldnt bother with var or winnie, they work well but not enough for a 2 week blast. Anadrol is next on my list to try.