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China Telmi is just normal pillglass.

So when I take my 80mg and cut it in half. And take the other half the next day it’s not good? The half tab is just in a pillbox.
I don't know to what degree this happens but it's probably far from full 80mg of effect being stored like this. I don't think breaking it is the big thing but the oxygen that comes in every time you open it? Idk I'm in over my head here brother
 
I've got a ton of Chinese telmisartan (in bottles), and the pressed tablets work just as well as the pharma ones I've used before.
Thank you.

I need to first confirm if the raws can be tested reliably at Janoshik, since it's a costly test. I have just contacted them about it.

The only report I could find is this one:
Code:
https://janoshik.com/tests/20030-Telmisartan_Raws_NWKME4XRYUC7

"experimental method, not validated". Maybe that has changed by now.


Pharma has telmisartan in bottles and they add 'moisture sensitive' warning on the label. Might not be as big of a problem otherwise why would they put them in bottles at all..

Not planning to use blister strips. The bottles we use are airtight, they do have a seal. Maybe telmisartan is indeed helped by a foodgrade desiccant pack in the bottle, we will see.
Thanks for chiming in - it's probably good to go then. Would love some decent priced UGL Telmi.
 
Thank you.

I need to first confirm if the raws can be tested reliably at Janoshik, since it's a costly test. I have just contacted them about it.

The only report I could find is this one:
Code:
https://janoshik.com/tests/20030-Telmisartan_Raws_NWKME4XRYUC7

"experimental method, not validated". Maybe that has changed by now.


Pharma has telmisartan in bottles and they add 'moisture sensitive' warning on the label. Might not be as big of a problem otherwise why would they put them in bottles at all..

Not planning to use blister strips. The bottles we use are airtight, they do have a seal. Maybe telmisartan is indeed helped by a foodgrade desiccant pack in the bottle, we will see.

Might be an interesting read.
Why not just resell pharma?
1250 80mg tabs is less than $100.

Im not 100 percentage sure but I believe in US they are required to use childproof packaging, hence childproof caped bottles. Bottles also save space vs individual blisters.

 
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I want to report back on the TNE70 (batch 2) pip that I had last august.

Instead of diluting it into seperate vials I decided to draw it into the same syringe that I pin my Test-E 250 with first. That is a blend of 50% mct and 50% castor oil which then mixes with the TNE70. It is still easily pushing through my 30G needles, while drawing with a 21G.

When pinning this way for me there is 0 pip, 0 inflammation, which makes me super happy cause I really like using the TNE pre-workout. I suspect the castor oil preventing the TNE from crystallizing before absorption into bloodstream is actually the right theory here.

Now I just have to time my test-e shots with some of my workout days. Needless to say I hope the idea of creating a batch of Test-E in 50/50 MCT/Castor is still on the table for the future, but I like the idea of testing a TNE variant in that mixture as well.
 
I want to report back on the TNE70 (batch 2) pip that I had last august.

Instead of diluting it into seperate vials I decided to draw it into the same syringe that I pin my Test-E 250 with first. That is a blend of 50% mct and 50% castor oil which then mixes with the TNE70. It is still easily pushing through my 30G needles, while drawing with a 21G.

When pinning this way for me there is 0 pip, 0 inflammation, which makes me super happy cause I really like using the TNE pre-workout. I suspect the castor oil preventing the TNE from crystallizing before absorption into bloodstream is actually the right theory here.

Now I just have to time my test-e shots with some of my workout days. Needless to say I hope the idea of creating a batch of Test-E in 50/50 MCT/Castor is still on the table for the future, but I like the idea of testing a TNE variant in that mixture as well.

Castor slows down the release of TNE. Thicker oil takes longer to absorb. Most are using it as a PWO, ideally you want it to be fully absorbed and peak during your workout. Using castor kind of defeats that purpose.
 
Castor slows down the release of TNE. Thicker oil takes longer to absorb. Most are using it as a PWO, ideally you want it to be fully absorbed and peak during your workout. Using castor kind of defeats that purpose.
it does not defeat the purpose, the castor oil is also still absorbed within 2-3 hours, it just needs a slightly earlier injection time, vs pure MCT which is usually 1 hour. And you don't limp around with inflammation from past day's injection.
 
it does not defeat the purpose, the castor oil is also still absorbed within 2-3 hours, it just needs a slightly earlier injection time, vs pure MCT which is usually 1 hour. And you don't limp around with inflammation from past day's injection.
I use the tne in the shoulder. No pip there. In quadriceps a lot.
 
Castor slows down the release of TNE. Thicker oil takes longer to absorb. Most are using it as a PWO, ideally you want it to be fully absorbed and peak during your workout. Using castor kind of defeats that purpose.
I understand what you're saying about controlling the peak though!
 
it does not defeat the purpose, the castor oil is also still absorbed within 2-3 hours, it just needs a slightly earlier injection time, vs pure MCT which is usually 1 hour. And you don't limp around with inflammation from past day's injection.
Have zero inflammation or pip from 1.2ml of dutch labs TNE

Pwo in castor makes zero sense
 
I can understand why people see it that way and I am not trying to make further arguments for it. In a blend of 50/50 you still also get the fast-absorption benefits of the MCT, so it would take about 2 hours to fully absorb instead of the regular 1 hour.

Since I also reported my bad experience in august, I found it interesting to report back on what I experienced earlier and what I have tried since. And I do still want to report the positive experience I had with blending it with a bit of castor: the workout, the sleep after, the not having severe inflammation, It was all super smooth. For anyone that finds it interesting.
 
I would buy Telmisartan from you @Dutch Labs in a heartbeat! Would be a nice product!
You can buy this without prescription at most pharmacy’s outside the EU. Never had any problems bringing in. Nobody smuggles this as it has no other use except for lowering blood pressure. If you ever get checked say you felt bad went to the doctor and he gave you the pills. I always bring 3 months supply of 80 mg and use 40 mg daily on cycle which means 6 months of cycling. I paid 3€ for box of 30 pills last time. HCG is a different beast as it’s considered PED.
 
You can buy this without prescription at most pharmacy’s outside the EU. Never had any problems bringing in. Nobody smuggles this as it has no other use except for lowering blood pressure. If you ever get checked say you felt bad went to the doctor and he gave you the pills. I always bring 3 months supply of 80 mg and use 40 mg daily on cycle which means 6 months of cycling. I paid 3€ for box of 30 pills last time. HCG is a different beast as it’s considered PED.
Telmisartan is easily purchased at the pharmacy without a prescription, I get 28 capsules of 80mg for €4.50.
 
You can buy this without prescription at most pharmacy’s outside the EU. Never had any problems bringing in. Nobody smuggles this as it has no other use except for lowering blood pressure. If you ever get checked say you felt bad went to the doctor and he gave you the pills. I always bring 3 months supply of 80 mg and use 40 mg daily on cycle which means 6 months of cycling. I paid 3€ for box of 30 pills last time. HCG is a different beast as it’s considered PED.

Is it OTC in Thailand?

Still. Having Dutch make it. Easy to get is still an upgrade. When you have an order anyway
 

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