That makes a lot of sense. The best I've felt on cycle was 600 test 400 primo with E2 at 58. Drive, confidence, mood all sky high. This was also in the summer which is my favorite season so that probably played a role on mood.
You mentioned E2 cyp is not recommended for novices (which I still consider myself) so what would you recommend for a low aromatizer that might need a boost? I've been using HCG and DHEA but I don't wanna use it forever.
Side note, I always hear high aromitizers bitch about how lucky we are. Not so much sometimes. You guys can just pop an AI. We have to play with fire. Not to mention crashing your E2 feels way worse than high E2.
Likewise, and I think once we start to collect data as a community, we’ll have a solid understanding. But I firmly believe that as androgen load increases, estrogen should reciprocate within healthy margins. We push the limits of androgens but cower at the thought of high estrogen because bro science said so. Void any negative side effects for clarity.
As for E/cyp, I should word it better. I didn’t want the young, new crowd we are dealing with to go off the deep end and jump in haphazardly, as they often do. Someone like you would be a perfect candidate to try modulating a cycle with E2 compounds. You’re well spoken and have a knowledge base that wants to learn more, just as I do and many others. I personally think this will be the future. If we think outside the box, high test causes a plethora of issues on its own. If we can adjust cycles to perform as we want at a level previously thought incapable, we may be able to adjust the science. I think you’re already aware of this cycle being conducted, and he’s not the first, but the more who attempt this, the more insight we’ll gain.
My idea is to modify a T/EQ cycle in the same method. In theory, I’d like to run 250T / 500EQ. At face value, anyone who knows the typical turnout would frown and ask why. But add in a marginal amount of E2, and we are potentially changing the game in our favor for overall health. For someone like me, and most, 3:1 or 4:1 is the only ratio I can survive with EQ. Running T that high is ridiculous in its totality, but I’ve seen doses here where care is a mere passing thought.
I know Photon dropped in, so if you haven’t seen it, here you go.
Thread ‘Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment’
Hey everyone,
So as I have mentioned in other threads - a few weeks ago I started my blast, and I'd like to use this thread to document my dosages, bloodwork, gains, etc. I'm doing something a bit unorthodox and going to be using an estrogen base throughout the cycle so I'll document my experiences with that because there doesn't seem to be a lot of information/experience out about that. Also I'll be running half the cycle using primo without EO and the other half using primo with EO so I'll document my inflammatory markers and pinning experiences on both.
This cycle design is gonna...
I also didn’t mean to distract from your thread, so my apologies. I just wanted the thought process out in the wild so others could think, use, and potentially remedy themselves. Everything you started this thread with is clearly an estrogen deficiency in my opinion. I’ve suffered the same, and yes, low aromatization is its own demon, it’s significantly harder to control than just taking a pill. But add in what feels like neurological impulse/sides, and you can bet estrogen is at play.
