shreddn1
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So I hear this is a good supp to take when in between lenbuterol cycles to keep fat off, anyone know a reliable source and is it the eca or ecay I want to use? Thanks guys. Can mp me as well with good source.
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Bradly
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Im an ECA junkie,I love the stuff. I experimented with the the Y. Its my belief you really shouldnt take the E and Y together. Also FWIW the Y caused me a major asthma flare up. I really didnt care for the y.
Bradly
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love me some Bayer bronkaid
TyroneMoreGains
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It's available over the counter as Bronkaid/Primatene
Bronkaid comes in Ephedrine Sulfate 25 mg Tablets
Primatene comes in Ephedrine HCL
12.5 mg Tablets
If you can handle the Yohimbine HCL with the stack go for it.
As a side note Primatene is the better of the two although you have to take more tablets (2)
Bronkaid comes in Ephedrine Sulfate 25 mg Tablets
Primatene comes in Ephedrine HCL
12.5 mg Tablets
If you can handle the Yohimbine HCL with the stack go for it.
As a side note Primatene is the better of the two although you have to take more tablets (2)
noah_k
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One neat thing about yohimbine is that it's uniquely good for the end of a cut, when you're trying to lose that last stubborn bit on your abs without losing a ton of muscle in the process.
So there are these things called α2 receptors which prevent/slow fat loss. The higher concentration of α2 receptors, the less likely the fat will be mobilized / likely to burn. Abs and lower back in guys have a higher concentration of these receptors, so the fat is harder to burn off.
So yohimbine increase blood flow and actually blocks the effect of the α2 receptors, which allows the fat to be better mobilized for a short while.
By itself it doesn't do much, but paired with exercise after taking it, a good deficit, and possibly other fat burners like ephederine, you can put yourself at a slightly better edge of losing more stubborn fat and less muscle. It's not much and most people could do without, but it's still something worth noticing.
Lyle (author of the meso article Bradly posted) has a really good book on it here with a bunch of cardio protocols to go along with it when you're dieting to single digit bf% http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-stubborn-fat-solution/
SmartPowders is pretty cheap to buy from http://www.smartpowders.com/yohimbine-hcl-90-ea.html
One small note: if you're prone to anxiety / panic attacks, this shit can cause some serious anxiety, I know this firsthand
So for me it's not worth it at all... but the way it works is kinda neat
So there are these things called α2 receptors which prevent/slow fat loss. The higher concentration of α2 receptors, the less likely the fat will be mobilized / likely to burn. Abs and lower back in guys have a higher concentration of these receptors, so the fat is harder to burn off.
So yohimbine increase blood flow and actually blocks the effect of the α2 receptors, which allows the fat to be better mobilized for a short while.
By itself it doesn't do much, but paired with exercise after taking it, a good deficit, and possibly other fat burners like ephederine, you can put yourself at a slightly better edge of losing more stubborn fat and less muscle. It's not much and most people could do without, but it's still something worth noticing.
Lyle (author of the meso article Bradly posted) has a really good book on it here with a bunch of cardio protocols to go along with it when you're dieting to single digit bf% http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-stubborn-fat-solution/
SmartPowders is pretty cheap to buy from http://www.smartpowders.com/yohimbine-hcl-90-ea.html
One small note: if you're prone to anxiety / panic attacks, this shit can cause some serious anxiety, I know this firsthand
So for me it's not worth it at all... but the way it works is kinda neat
shreddn1
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What's bronkaid, never seen it at walmart is it behind counter, an thanks guys what's a good ratio of each for te stack plus yohimbine if I want to throw it in and only take once a day, anyone know of any other excellent fat burners let me know
noah_k
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Yeah you'll see a sign like this http://www.commonsensewithmoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Bronkaid-11-21-12_thumb.jpg in the shelves, but you have to request it OTC. They'll take down your signature and ID and you're good to go.
Compare the prices though, bronkaid is about half as strong as primatene per pill, so sometimes primatene is cheaper. It varies from WM to WM.
I'd start off with either EC or EY (but if you do the latter make sure you do it right, empty stomach, cardio etc) before jumping on both at once.
There are a bunch of other fat burners / appetite suppresants, but it's not really a thing you just mix and match for fun, you can't just combine them all. Most interfere with each other and at the end of the day diet is what makes the difference
good luck
TyroneMoreGains
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Primatene you can get it over the counter at any Rite - aid
WrongHole!
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Bronkaid from Walmart works great.
One neat thing about yohimbine is that it's uniquely good for the end of a cut, when you're trying to lose that last stubborn bit on your abs without losing a ton of muscle in the process.
So there are these things called α2 receptors which prevent/slow fat loss. The higher concentration of α2 receptors, the less likely the fat will be mobilized / likely to burn. Abs and lower back in guys have a higher concentration of these receptors, so the fat is harder to burn off.
So yohimbine increase blood flow and actually blocks the effect of the α2 receptors, which allows the fat to be better mobilized for a short while.
By itself it doesn't do much, but paired with exercise after taking it, a good deficit, and possibly other fat burners like ephederine, you can put yourself at a slightly better edge of losing more stubborn fat and less muscle. It's not much and most people could do without, but it's still something worth noticing.
Lyle (author of the meso article Bradly posted) has a really good book on it here with a bunch of cardio protocols to go along with it when you're dieting to single digit bf% http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-stubborn-fat-solution/
SmartPowders is pretty cheap to buy from http://www.smartpowders.com/yohimbine-hcl-90-ea.html
One small note: if you're prone to anxiety / panic attacks, this shit can cause some serious anxiety, I know this firsthand
Good information, thanks for the contribution.
dajr225
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Walgreens or any pharmacy bro. It's called Primatine. 12.5 mg of pure ephedrine hcl. You don't nneed a prescription for it either.
Any one ever get tired from taking eca ive got a friend that takes it and it makes him sleepy thats 1 bronkaid 100mg caffeine and 81mg asprin 3 times a day.
TyroneMoreGains
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Tell him to get some primatene instead of that pussy Bronkaid. And up his caffine to 200 mgs. And fuck the asprin.
Will do ill tell ya how it goes
noah_k
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Nearly the same substance brother! The mg in ephedrine sulfate is only a bit less than that of ephedrine hcl products. I prefer the primatene though too, it comes out to cheaper here but this isn't consistent across shops
@joshtes
Taking it up to 3x a day (spaced out) with 20-24 (24 because 3x8mg is common) paired with 200mg caffeine seems to be an ideal synergistic ratio (there's a lot of studies evaluating different ratios of E:C).
But realize after extended use, while the fat burning effects (though really mild) still continue to work and in fact might even be compounded, the appetite suppression and stimulation will largely diminish to nothing.
Personally I find the appetite suppression to be far more valuable than a tiny bit of fat burning, but that effect tapers after about 10 days until I stop taking it for a period.
Thanks noah for the information
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